Mixing RU58841 with cetosomal minoxidil is discussed due to scalp irritation from ethanol PG vehicles. A mixture of the two turned bright pink when left to dry.
The user is experiencing irritation from using PG with RU58841 and is seeking alternative solutions like K&B in the UK. They report redness, itchiness, and flaky skin from the current treatment.
The solution contains minoxidil, finasteride, azelaic acid, caffeine, retinoic acid, and procapil. Users suggest minoxidil with tretinoin and a 5-alpha reductase inhibitor, while dismissing retinoic and azelaic acids as unnecessary.
FCE 28260 (PNU 156765), an under-explored 5α-reductase inhibitor, showcases promising results in research by Giudici et al., outperforming well-known treatments like Finasteride in reducing the conversion of testosterone to DHT. Its superior efficacy, demonstrated through lower IC50 values in both natural and human recombinant enzyme studies, suggests it could offer more effective management of DHT-related conditions. Additionally, its lower molecular weight hints at better potential for topical application, potentially offering advantages in treating conditions such as androgenic alopecia. Despite its potential, it has not advanced in development, possibly due to financial limitations, leaving its therapeutic prospects and side effect profile largely unexplored.
The conversation is about finding a solution for scalp inflammation related to AGA, with the user expressing frustration that Minoxidil and Finasteride do not address inflammation. The user has researched glucocorticoids and topical NSAIDs for reducing inflammation and seeks advice from specialists.
The user was rejected from participating in a clinical trial for an extended-release oral Minoxidil due to having rheumatoid arthritis, despite initially being accepted. They had stopped using Dutasteride and Minoxidil to qualify but continued using other treatments like RU58841 and red light therapy.
The conversation discusses using azelaic acid to reduce scalp inflammation while using RU58841 for hair loss. It suggests applying azelaic acid in the morning and RU58841 at night to avoid degradation, while also using dutasteride and minoxidil.
Gizzela is unsure about the dosage and frequency of copper peptides and asks if they can be used with Stemoxydine. They seek advice on applying these treatments together.
A dermatologist prescribed methionine with vitamins for hair loss, but the user is doubtful and plans to seek finasteride in France. The user is unsure why finasteride or minoxidil wasn't prescribed, suspecting concerns about side effects or strength.
User is on vacation in Greece and wants to buy tretinoin or isotretinoin to improve Minoxidil absorption. They are considering isotretinoin since it is available over-the-counter in Greece but requires a prescription back home.
RU58841 was the only treatment that slowed hair loss and reduced irritation for a DUPA sufferer after trying finasteride, minoxidil, and dutasteride with no success. The user continues using 6mg oral minoxidil, 0.5mg dutasteride, and an 8% RU58841 solution.
The conversation discusses the differences between PG/Ethanol and KB solutions for RU58841 application, focusing on potential scalp irritation. KB solution is suggested for those allergic to PG, though both contain ethanol which can dry the scalp.
Stemoxydine's effects on hair growth are uncertain and not well-studied, with users reporting mixed results and concerns about maintaining gains. Some users combine it with 5AR inhibitors like Dutasteride, but results vary, and conditions like lichen planopilaris complicate treatment.
A user is interested in creating a hair growth serum using oleic acid, palmitoleic acid, and anhydrous ethanol, and seeks advice on sourcing these ingredients. Another user plans to mix these with minoxidil, which already contains ethanol, and mentions using RU58841.
Amino acids like lysine, methionine, and cysteine may help with androgenetic alopecia when taken in high doses along with a DHT blocker. Users discuss combining these with treatments like Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841.
A natural compound called C3A from Aronia Chokeberry can help prevent hair loss by counteracting the effects of DHT. The user has been taking 50 grams of dried organic Aronia Chokeberry daily for 30 days and will update with photos in 60 days.
A participant using Veradermics VDPHL01, an extended-release oral minoxidil, experienced significant hair regrowth from Norwood 6 to Norwood 3V without side effects. They plan to use dutasteride after the treatment to maintain results.
The user is trying RU58841, oral minoxidil, and dermarolling to combat hair loss caused by increased scalp testosterone after using finasteride and dutasteride. They plan to document their results.
A user shared their 9-month progress using RU58841 at 2% daily for hair regrowth, initially starting at 5% but reducing the dose due to early signs of gynecomastia, which has since mostly resolved. They achieved their goal of regrowing hair at the temples and hairline.
Creating a propylene glycol-free Minoxidil and Tretinoin solution to reduce skin irritation and enhance effectiveness. An emulsifier like lecithin can help mix Tretinoin properly, and Minoxidil foam is an alternative without propylene glycol.
The conversation is about when GT20029, a hair loss treatment, might be available on the grey market, with users discussing the challenges of compounding it and speculating it might be available after phase 2 results, similar to pyri. Specific treatments mentioned are pyri, RU58841, and GT20029.
The user is seeking a new source for RU58841 in the EU after their previous supplier stopped selling it. They mention considering Anagen, Actifolic, Minoxidilmax, and rudirect, and ask for advice on shipping within the EU and product quality, while also mentioning their current hair loss treatment involves mixing RU with Stemoxydine and Alfatradiol.
GT20029 is a topical treatment that degrades androgen receptors to prevent hair thinning and loss, potentially offering fewer side effects than systemic treatments like finasteride. Concerns include its impact on hair texture and potential systemic effects, with market availability speculated in 3 to 5 years.
A 32-year-old male experienced erectile dysfunction and decreased libido after using oral dutasteride and minoxidil for hair loss. He is considering switching to topical alternatives like Xyon dutasteride or RU58841 to reduce side effects.
The user mixes their own RU58841 solution and found that increasing the ethanol content improved absorption and reduced scalp itching. A study on minoxidil showed that penetration increased with higher ethanol concentrations, reaching maximum penetration at 90% ethanol.
RU58841 lacks FDA approval due to financial and safety concerns, including potential cardiological side effects. The company abandoned further research, and users report adverse effects like heart palpitations and gynecomastia.
A 23-year-old started using 0.5mg Dutasteride and 2.5mg Minoxidil daily for hair loss and is considering adding RU58841 or GHK-cu. Users suggest waiting a few months before adding anything and mention Koshine's kx-826 as a potentially better alternative to RU58841.