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RU58841, an anti-androgenic compound, showed early promise for treating alopecia but faced challenges after its patent in 1997. Despite advancing to Phase II trials, safety concerns and financial struggles led Aventis to abandon its development. Proskelia, which later merged into ProStrakan, couldn't prioritize the drug, leading to its eventual stagnation and failure to reach the market.

Azelaic acid is considered a strong DHT inhibitor with no reported sexual side effects, making it a potential alternative for those who cannot use finasteride. It can be used with minoxidil, but may cause skin irritation.

Salicylic acid in Nioxin shampoo may reduce minoxidil effectiveness by inhibiting sulfotransferase activity, potentially causing hair loss. Users suggest stopping salicylic acid use or trying alternative treatments like high-concentration tretinoin or medicated minoxidil/finasteride shampoos.

Creatine use with finasteride increased DHT levels, possibly affecting hair loss. The user plans to reduce creatine to stabilize DHT and hair shedding.

Hair loss treatments, specifically 5AR inhibitors, can impact neurosteroids and sexual health. The effects of topical fin/dut on tissue-specific DHT levels are unclear.

Topical dutasteride may have limited absorption due to its higher molecular mass compared to finasteride, potentially affecting its efficacy in suppressing DHT locally. Microneedling might enhance dutasteride absorption, possibly offering stronger local DHT suppression with fewer systemic effects.

Creatine does not interfere with minoxidil and microneedling for temple regrowth. Users discussed the effectiveness of these treatments.

RU58841 is discussed as a treatment that stops scalp itching when used with finasteride or dutasteride. The user is considering trying RU58841 due to persistent itching despite using the "big 3" treatments.

GHK-Cu and AHK-Cu peptides show limited success for hair loss, with skepticism about their effectiveness and concerns about misleading claims. Users report better results when combined with treatments like finasteride, dutasteride, minoxidil, and other methods.

Cetirizine 10mg daily reduced hair shedding by 50% and lessened scalp itchiness. The user is considering long-term use for scalp inflammation and hair loss.

A user applied the 8T3 product for hair loss, targeting LPP and AGA, and plans to update on its effectiveness. The product uses a saline buffered phosphate vehicle, suitable for those intolerant to ethanolic vehicles.

The conversation discusses the comparison of Pyrilutamide Phase II US trial results with 1 mg finasteride for hair loss treatment. It mentions that the total hair count increase in the US trial was not as good as the China trial.

Pyrilutamide is believed to be more effective than RU58841 and 1 mg finasteride in treating hair loss, with no systemic hormonal effects and the potential to block more than 31% of scalp DHT. It may also antagonize scalp testosterone due to its action as an androgen receptor antagonist.

The conversation discusses the need for a localized 5-alpha reductase inhibitor that only affects the scalp without systemic side effects, similar to pyrilutamide's approach. Current treatments like topical liposomal finasteride and dutasteride are mentioned, but concerns about their systemic effects and lack of research are highlighted.

The conversation discusses using a liposomal gel with Adenosine and caffeine for hair loss, questioning if caffeine's role as an adenosine receptor antagonist might counteract the benefits of Adenosine or worsen hair loss.

The conversation discusses Melatonin's potential benefits for AGA and a product called "Asatex" by ASATONA AG. The company was uncooperative when contacted for purchase inquiries.

The conversation discusses concerns about using Ashwagandha with Dutasteride for hair loss, as Ashwagandha may increase testosterone and potentially affect DHT levels. Users generally agree that the increase in DHT is minimal and unlikely to impact the effectiveness of Dutasteride significantly.

High-dose Dutasteride slightly reduces scalp itch, but adding RU58841 eliminates it completely. Some users report reduced itchiness and oiliness with Dutasteride, while others find topical anti-androgens more effective.

User discusses group buy for finerenone, a third-gen mineralocorticoid antagonist for hair loss treatment. Finerenone inhibits TGFb, NOX, and ROS, and improves renal and cardiac function; topical dose should be no more than 10mg per day.

Fluridil degrades androgen receptors, which are prevalent in the scalp and other tissues. People with androgenetic alopecia (AGA) may have higher expression of these receptors and 5AR activity in affected scalp areas.

The ineffectiveness of Strut Health's dutasteride capsules, which are filled with raw powder instead of liquid and don't contain any buffering agents that would allow for absorption into the bloodstream. It is suggested to use other brands of liquid-filled dutasteride capsules for better results.

Clascoterone cream can be used on the scalp, but it may not be effective due to its dosage. AR antagonists like clascoterone are generally less effective than 5AR inhibitors for hair loss.

Creatine might increase DHT levels, potentially affecting hair loss, but its impact is debated. Some users experience hair shedding with creatine despite using finasteride, while others notice no change.

The conversation is about considering pyrilutamide 1% as an alternative treatment for hair loss due to intolerance to 5-alpha reductase inhibitors. Some users suggest it might be effective, while others view it as a temporary solution.

The user is experiencing scalp irritation from a compounded treatment of finasteride, minoxidil, and tretinoin. They are considering switching to a non-alcohol, propylene glycol-free formula with a lower tretinoin percentage to reduce irritation.

The user applies a topical solution containing minoxidil, finasteride, dutasteride, retinoic acid, and hydrocortisone to address scalp inflammation and is considering adding cetirizine to the mix. They are calculating the correct amount of cetirizine to add to their formula and have paused this approach to retry oral minoxidil.

The conversation discusses a clinical trial for Setipiprant in the US, starting June 29th, with eligibility excluding recent users of minoxidil or finasteride. It encourages informed decision-making before signing up.

A user's experience with hair loss treatments, specifically finasteride/dutasteride, and the potential for nocebo effects to influence side-effects. They caution others against focusing too much on possible side-effects when using these drugs, as they are generally safe and effective.

New treatments for AGA are emerging, including pyrilutumide, gt0029, scube3, kx-826, and pp405. Verteporfin is mentioned as a promising option.

The conversation discusses GT20029, a compound by Kintor Pharma that degrades androgen receptors and is in trials, with potential as a hair loss cure. Another promising treatment mentioned is an antibody that blocks prolactin and has shown positive results in macaques.