Users discuss using pyrilutamide for hair loss, seeking alternatives to 5AR inhibitors. They mention using minoxidil, ketoconazole shampoo, and RU58841.
The user is considering starting Minoxidil and is looking for a topical solution to combine with it. They are confused about which product to prioritize among options like RU58841, Pyrilutamide, FinaTopic, and DutaTopic.
A user is experiencing hair thinning and is using a peptide with oleanic acid as a DHT blocker, along with minoxidil, while waiting for topical finasteride. They plan to use a combination of minoxidil, finasteride, dermastamp, ketoconazole, and scalp massages, but are advised to stick to proven treatments like finasteride and minoxidil.
RU58841 caused chest tightness, throat irritation, and headaches, leading the user to stop its use. The user plans to restart with a lower dose if symptoms fully disappear but remains cautious due to anxiety and side effects.
RU58841, an anti-androgenic compound, showed early promise for treating alopecia but faced challenges after its patent in 1997. Despite advancing to Phase II trials, safety concerns and financial struggles led Aventis to abandon its development. Proskelia, which later merged into ProStrakan, couldn't prioritize the drug, leading to its eventual stagnation and failure to reach the market.
A recent publication suggests that the flavonoids eriocitrin and silymarin may be more effective than finasteride in binding to the enzyme responsible for hair loss. People in the conversation are skeptical about the effectiveness and safety of these flavonoids until tested on humans, and some discuss their personal experiences with other treatments.
A 28 year old using a hair loss prevention protocol to restore thinning hair, which includes finasteride, dutasteride, minoxidil, stemoxydine, alopecin, nizoral shampoo and microneedling; the user is now adding pyrilutamide solution to the regimen with the hope of improving their results. RU58841 was also ordered but not yet used.
The conversation humorously discusses hair loss treatments, mentioning spironolactone and cyproterone acetate. It reflects a sense of frustration and satire about the effectiveness of these treatments.
Azelaic acid is discussed as a DHT inhibitor with no reported sexual side effects, but its effectiveness and absorption as a topical treatment are questioned. The user is interested in azelaic acid due to concerns about finasteride affecting penile health.
Hair loss treatments discussed include Minoxidil, Finasteride, and RU58841. Anageninc stopped selling KX-826 (Pyrilutamide) due to a cease and desist letter from Kintor, but this may indicate promising study results and a potential 2024 release.
Pyrilutamide is believed to be more effective than RU58841 and 1 mg finasteride in treating hair loss, with no systemic hormonal effects and the potential to block more than 31% of scalp DHT. It may also antagonize scalp testosterone due to its action as an androgen receptor antagonist.
The conversation discusses using a multimodal approach to treat androgenic alopecia, including substances like gamma-linolenic acid, DHA, sulforaphane, melatonin, cetirizine, astaxanthin, fisetin, apigenin, curcumin, limonene, genistein, and berberine. Users also mention using ketoconazole, minoxidil, and low-level laser therapy (LLLT) as part of their hair loss treatment regimens.
The user is experiencing scalp irritation from a compounded treatment of finasteride, minoxidil, and tretinoin. They are considering switching to a non-alcohol, propylene glycol-free formula with a lower tretinoin percentage to reduce irritation.
The conversation is about adding crushed bicalutamide or spironolactone to a topical mix with finasteride and minoxidil to suppress testosterone in hair follicles, similar to what RU58841 does. The user cannot obtain RU58841 in their country and is seeking advice on this alternative approach for hair loss treatment.
The conversation is about which blood markers to test before starting a 5-AR inhibitor for hair loss. The user mentions already testing Total T, Free T, SHBG, Estradiol, Haematocrit, Red blood cell count, and White cell count, and asks if DHT or additional markers are needed.
Pyrilutamide and RU58841 are androgen receptor antagonists that block receptors without significantly reducing testosterone or DHT levels. Any indirect effect on androgen levels is likely negligible.
The conversation discusses DHT blocking treatments for hair loss, specifically mentioning Minoxidil, Finasteride, and organic flaxseed oil containing omega-3 fatty acids. It highlights skepticism about alternative treatments and emphasizes the proven effectiveness of Finasteride and Dutasteride.
The user has accepted their hair loss and uses finasteride and minoxidil, with past use of RU58841 and dutasteride. They seek advice on supplements to slow down graying hair.
PP405 might make minoxidil unnecessary, but finasteride or other 5AR inhibitors may still be needed. PP405 is expected to be expensive and not available until at least 2028, with limited information on its effectiveness.
The user experienced no improvement in hair loss with finasteride and minoxidil but had side effects. They plan to add wounding, scalp massage, vitamin K, and taurine supplements to their regimen and seek feedback on these additions.
Finasteride can reduce DHT in the genitalia, potentially causing side effects like reduced erections and penile fibrosis. Using PDE5 inhibitors like Tadalafil or Sildenafil may help maintain penile health and prevent fibrosis.
The conversation discusses using aromatase inhibiting supplements like DIM and Grape Seed extract while on finasteride for hair loss treatment. Users share their experiences and opinions on combining these supplements with finasteride.
Setipiprant and bimatoprost are being discussed as potential future treatments for hair loss. Some individuals have started testing setipiprant before FDA approval, but no progress updates are available yet.
The user is considering switching from topical finasteride to RU58841 or KX826 due to side effects like low libido and ED. They are also using oral minoxidil and considering low-dose saw palmetto to maintain their hairline.
Elevated bile acids can inhibit the enzyme AKR1C2, leading to increased DHT levels, which may accelerate hair loss in those predisposed to androgenetic alopecia. Treatments mentioned include topical minoxidil and finasteride.
RU58841 is considered effective by some users, but finasteride and minoxidil are commonly used with varying dosages to manage side effects. Users report different experiences with treatments like pyrilutamide, fluridil, and RU58841, with some seeing results and others not.
Stopping antihistamines may resolve neurological side effects when using finasteride. Users experienced muscle aches, headaches, and lethargy when combining the two.
The conversation is about concerns regarding starting finasteride for AGA, with a preference for topical finasteride due to worries about oral side effects. The user is considering adding oral minoxidil later due to an allergy to topical minoxidil.
The user is considering stopping RU58841 due to inconvenience and potential side effects, while continuing with oral minoxidil and dutasteride. Another user shared their experience of stopping RU58841 without significant hair shedding while on dutasteride and minoxidil.
Kintor edited their Amazon page, removing claims that KX-826 provides "real" visible results from clinical experiments. The discussion includes treatments like Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841.