The conversation discusses alternatives to 5AR inhibitors for hair loss treatment, suggesting options like minoxidil, KX-826, pyrilutimide, microneedling, and topical bicalutamide. Concerns about side effects and the effectiveness of these treatments are also highlighted.
The conversation is about making a 20mg/ml RU58841 solution for hair loss treatment using ethanol and propylene glycol. The user receives advice on calculating the correct amount of RU58841 powder needed.
Ell-Cranell and Eucapil are discussed as hair loss treatments, with Ell-Cranell being a weak estrogen and DHT inhibitor that may reduce hair loss without systemic side effects. Alfatradiol is the active ingredient in these products.
The conversation discusses the results of a group buy for Ky19382 related to hair loss treatments. Specific treatments mentioned include Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841.
PP405 increased hair density by 20% in 31% of participants, but results are considered underwhelming. Minoxidil and finasteride are seen as more effective treatments.
A user's father experienced hair regrowth and other health improvements after two IV exosome treatments. The user also had four rounds of exosome therapy, noting significant hair regrowth and relief from headaches, but no change in gray hair.
People discussed their experiences with anti-androgens for hair loss, mentioning side effects like chest pains with RU58841 and skepticism due to lack of safety data, while considering Fluridil as a potential addition to treatment. Some users expressed reluctance to use these chemicals.
Topical androgen receptor antagonists may not be necessary if 5-AR inhibitors like finasteride or dutasteride effectively reduce DHT levels. Combining a 5-AR inhibitor with a topical androgen antagonist could potentially enhance treatment, but oral use of androgen antagonists is too risky due to severe side effects.
The user experienced a sudden decrease in hair density after starting alfatradiol while already using finasteride. Another user mentioned that initial shedding can occur with hair loss treatments, but it may not last long.
The conversation discusses natural DHT blockers like rice bran oil, which may reduce 5α-reductase activity similarly to Minoxidil and Dutasteride. One user argues that finasteride is more reliable and effective than natural alternatives.
A user started using RU58841 before finasteride for hair loss and is now considering stopping RU58841 while continuing finasteride. They are asking if others have maintained hair gains from RU58841 after stopping it, but one response suggests it's risky to stop RU58841 if they want to keep their hair gains.
The user experienced significant hair shedding after long-term use of finasteride and dutasteride and is now considering trying RU58841 as a last resort. They have checked health factors and suspect stress and poor sleep may contribute to the shedding, but they are determined to try RU58841 to see if it helps with androgenetic alopecia.
A 17-year-old is concerned about potential hair loss due to maternal genetics and wonders if treatments like Minoxidil, Finasteride, or RU58841 will be effective. They hope their paternal genetics will help prevent hair loss or make treatments more effective.
Finasteride not only inactivates the 5a reductase enzyme but also affects the 5b reductase enzyme in a dose-dependent manner, which can impact sexual behavior and brain activity. The user experienced significant hair regrowth and side effects on 1mg of finasteride, which diminished after reducing the dose to 0.5mg, leading to no side effects and further hair improvement.
The user reports losing a significant amount of hair when applying RU58841 and Minoxidil but loses much less hair when massaging or brushing without these treatments. They are concerned about the increased hair loss associated with these products.
Pyrilutimide, a treatment for hair loss; it's effectiveness compared to other treatments such as Finasteride and RU58841; and some users’ experiences with the treatment.
User discusses group buy for finerenone, a third-gen mineralocorticoid antagonist for hair loss treatment. Finerenone inhibits TGFb, NOX, and ROS, and improves renal and cardiac function; topical dose should be no more than 10mg per day.
Adding RU58841 to Dutasteride treatment helped reduce hair shedding significantly for several users. Some reported no change with RU58841, while others experienced a dramatic decrease in shedding and increased hair density.
The conversation discusses various theories of hair loss, including DHT sensitivity and genetic factors, with the user willing to use themselves for research due to having a hair loss gene but different hair loss patterns compared to their brothers. Specific treatments were not mentioned in the provided text.
People have reported hair thickening with Pyrilutamide, particularly using a 1% concentration. Some users are curious about the availability of different concentrations like 0.9%.
Actifollic selling Pyrilutamide as a treatment for hair loss, with people debating its efficacy compared to Minoxidil and Finasteride in combination with RU58841.
Creating a liposomal gel with Pyrilutamide for hair loss to reduce systemic effects, similar to Xyon's gel. The discussion includes concerns about ingredient sourcing and the benefits of targeted topical treatments.
The user is currently using finasteride and minoxidil and is considering adding microneedling and either RU58841 or Pyrilutamide for potential hair regrowth. They previously used microneedling, RU58841, and oral minoxidil before their hair transplant.
Be cautious when sourcing PP405 or its analogs from third-party suppliers due to potential safety risks and lack of regulatory approval. The conversation highlights concerns about counterfeit products and the absence of reliable testing, making it risky to use such treatments.
The user is considering reducing RU58841 dosage from 100mg to 17.5mg for long-term safety due to brain fog issues from finasteride. They apply RU58841 only to the front of the scalp where thinning occurs.
New hair loss treatments PP405 and VDPHL01 are discussed with skepticism and hope, alongside existing treatments like minoxidil and finasteride. Users express frustration over limited progress since the 1980s but remain cautiously optimistic.
Topical estradiol may help with hair loss but can have systemic effects, like reduced testosterone production. Using estrogen blockers can have negative side effects, such as joint pain and reduced sex drive.
White rice may lower DHT and potentially cause symptoms similar to post-finasteride syndrome. The user experienced muscle wasting, depression, and other symptoms after consuming large amounts of white rice.
The conversation is about whether it is safe to take Xeljanz, a JAK inhibitor, while also taking finasteride for hair loss. The concern is that Xeljanz weakens the immune system, which could be risky.