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Exploring hair loss treatments beyond DHT, including Minoxidil, pyruvate, Gt20029 targeting androgen receptors, and vasodilators. Other options like Kx826, adenosine signaling, growth factor topicals, and microneedling are also discussed.

A new hair loss treatment, Pyrilutamide, has been released and is claimed to be a strong anti-androgen, potentially effective when used with finasteride. However, there are mixed opinions on its effectiveness and safety, with some users skeptical and others purchasing it.

A user is experiencing continued hair loss despite using 0.5mg dutasteride and 2.5mg minoxidil, and is seeking advice on why the treatments aren't working and how to address potential androgen receptor sensitivity. Replies suggest getting tested and considering scalp micropigmentation (SMP).

The conversation is about the results of using hormone replacement therapy (HRT) with estrogen and finasteride for hair loss, and switching from finasteride to bicalutamide as an anti-androgen treatment. The user shared before and after photos to discuss the effectiveness of these treatments.

The conversation discusses whether creatine causes hair loss for those using finasteride or dutasteride, with some suggesting creatine might increase DHT or upregulate androgen receptors, potentially leading to hair loss. Others argue the evidence is not conclusive, citing limited studies and personal anecdotes, with some avoiding creatine as a precaution.

The conversation discusses doubts about the effectiveness of topical finasteride for hair loss, suggesting that DHT could be produced elsewhere in the body and affect the scalp. It proposes that androgen receptor antagonists like spironolactone and clascoterone might be more effective as they could prevent this potential bypass mechanism.

A transgender individual is starting spironolactone and estradiol for hormone replacement therapy (HRT) and is considering adding finasteride to help with hair loss. They are also planning to use minoxidil and microneedle, but are unsure if they need to use another anti-androgen or more aggressive treatments. A respondent advises against using pyri and suggests waiting to see if the HRT alone is sufficient before becoming dependent on minoxidil.

He Shou Wu (Fo Ti) extract was found to prolong the hair growth phase, inhibit 5-alpha-reductase (like finasteride), reduce androgen receptors, and increase growth factors, potentially outperforming minoxidil in recovering hair follicle size after DHT exposure. Two compounds, emodin and TSG, are identified as responsible for these effects and warrant further investigation.

Pyrilutamide is believed to be more effective than RU58841 and 1 mg finasteride in treating hair loss, with no systemic hormonal effects and the potential to block more than 31% of scalp DHT. It may also antagonize scalp testosterone due to its action as an androgen receptor antagonist.

The conversation discusses using zinc sulphate and azelaic acid to inhibit 5 alpha-reductase activity, which could potentially treat androgen-related skin conditions like hair loss. Combining these with vitamin B6 could enhance the effect, potentially offering an alternative to finasteride.

User asks if dutasteride destroys hairlines. Some users share negative experiences, while others report improvement or no issues. Advice given: start with finasteride and consider anti-androgens if needed.

Hair loss treatments Cosmerna, RU, and Pyri discussed. Cosmerna inhibits androgen receptors, but not 100%, so RU/Pyri can be used synergistically.

CosmeRNA, a new hair loss treatment, is expected to release soon and may become part of the "big three" treatments alongside finasteride and minoxidil. It works differently from finasteride by targeting androgen receptors in hair follicles, potentially offering fewer side effects.

A user's experience with hair loss treatments, including Dutasteride, Oral Minoxidil and Finasteride; potential side effects; and the potential of using anti-androgens or microneedling.

Fluridil, also known as Topilutamide or Eucapil, is discussed as a treatment for hair loss. It is noted as an androgen receptor antagonist, not a vasodilator.

Kintor's GT20029, a treatment for hair loss, has completed Phase 1 successfully, showing promise as an androgen receptor degrader that could potentially regrow hair. It is considered more effective than Pyrilutamide, with infrequent dosing and minimal systemic absorption.

The conversation discusses how Caucasian men are more likely to experience hair loss due to genetic predisposition, with factors like the androgen receptor on the X chromosome playing a significant role. The user also expresses confusion about the evolutionary reasons for hair loss, especially in colder climates where it would seem beneficial to retain hair for warmth.

Pyrilutamide, a potential hair loss treatment that is currently in development and may be available soon; an androgen receptor degrader which is also being developed as a potential treatment for hair loss; and the comparison between Pyrilutamide, finasteride, minoxidil, and RU58841.

The conversation discusses the potential of a new hair loss treatment, GT20029, which targets androgen receptors in the scalp and is in phase 1 trials in China. Users express hope that this treatment will be more effective than current options like Minoxidil and Finasteride.

Experimenting with trestolone as a treatment for hair loss in an attempt to avoid DHT-related treatments such as finasteride and dutasteride, and discussing the potential effects of its receptor selectivity on the androgen receptors in the scalp.

A 25 year old male who has been using finasteride and dutasteride for two years to treat his hair loss, with no success. Other treatments such as oral minoxidil, topical anti-androgens, RU58841, latanoprost, topical estrogen, CB 03 01, microneedling, keto 2% shampoo, vitamin D, Omega 3, B vitamins and probiotics were discussed.

User experienced slow gains with topical fin+min, switched to topical dut+min, and considered adding Eucapil. Another user suggested DUT may be less effective topically due to high molar mass and mentioned Fluridil as a weak anti-androgen that could help.

Hair loss treatments discussed include Minoxidil, Finasteride, RU58841, and Nizoral shampoo. Nizoral's effectiveness is debated, with some suggesting it works as a weak antagonist for androgen receptors, while others attribute its benefits to anti-fungal and anti-inflammatory properties.

User asks if stacking Alfatradiol and Fluridil is effective for hair loss. Alfatradiol is a weaker, topical 5ar inhibitor, while Fluridil is an anti-androgen preventing DHT binding to hair follicles.

Switching to dutasteride as a hair loss prevention treatment, along with minoxidil, dermarolling and nizoral shampoo, and the potential benefits and side effects of using finasteride and/or dutasteride in combination with topical anti-androgens like RU58841.

Bicalutamide is discussed as a treatment for hair loss, particularly in females, with some users cautioning against its use due to potential side effects. The conversation also mentions using finasteride and other anti-androgens, with some users recommending more traditional treatments like dutasteride.

Eucapil is discussed as a potential hair loss treatment with some believing it to be effective, though its efficacy compared to finasteride is debated. It is considered an anti-androgen treatment, often used alongside other treatments like minoxidil and finasteride, but lacks independent studies to fully support its effectiveness.

The user received hormone test results showing normal estradiol and testosterone levels, low SHBG, and normal free androgen index. They are considering starting finasteride but are concerned due to being slightly overweight.

The conversation discusses the potential effects of spearmint on acne and male pattern baldness (MPB). Concerns are raised about spearmint's androgen-suppressing effects and its suitability for men.

Ursolic acid, found in apple peels, lemongrass, rosemary, and lavender, may have anti-androgen effects similar to finasteride. It might be beneficial for hair health when used with other treatments like Minoxidil, Finasteride, and RU58841.