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Exploring hair loss treatments beyond DHT, including Minoxidil, pyruvate, Gt20029 targeting androgen receptors, and vasodilators. Other options like Kx826, adenosine signaling, growth factor topicals, and microneedling are also discussed.

A new hair loss treatment, Pyrilutamide, has been released and is claimed to be a strong anti-androgen, potentially effective when used with finasteride. However, there are mixed opinions on its effectiveness and safety, with some users skeptical and others purchasing it.

The conversation is about the results of using hormone replacement therapy (HRT) with estrogen and finasteride for hair loss, and switching from finasteride to bicalutamide as an anti-androgen treatment. The user shared before and after photos to discuss the effectiveness of these treatments.

A user experienced severe chest pains and shortness of breath after using RU58841 for hair loss and was advised by a doctor that blocking androgens can weaken the heart. They decided to continue with finasteride, minoxidil, and a hair transplant instead.

The conversation discusses whether creatine causes hair loss for those using finasteride or dutasteride, with some suggesting creatine might increase DHT or upregulate androgen receptors, potentially leading to hair loss. Others argue the evidence is not conclusive, citing limited studies and personal anecdotes, with some avoiding creatine as a precaution.

Minoxidil helps hair growth on both scalp and face, but stopping it leads to hair loss on the scalp, not the face. The user questions why scalp hair can't be maintained with finasteride or androgen blockers after stopping minoxidil, despite these treatments reducing DHT damage.

The conversation discusses doubts about the effectiveness of topical finasteride for hair loss, suggesting that DHT could be produced elsewhere in the body and affect the scalp. It proposes that androgen receptor antagonists like spironolactone and clascoterone might be more effective as they could prevent this potential bypass mechanism.

The discussion revolves around the need for future oral DHT blockers for hair loss treatment that don't have the side effects of current options like Finasteride and Dutasteride. One user suggests that the future of hair loss treatment will likely be topical anti-androgens, as they can target hair follicles without affecting the entire system.

He Shou Wu (Fo Ti) extract was found to prolong the hair growth phase, inhibit 5-alpha-reductase (like finasteride), reduce androgen receptors, and increase growth factors, potentially outperforming minoxidil in recovering hair follicle size after DHT exposure. Two compounds, emodin and TSG, are identified as responsible for these effects and warrant further investigation.

Pyrilutamide is believed to be more effective than RU58841 and 1 mg finasteride in treating hair loss, with no systemic hormonal effects and the potential to block more than 31% of scalp DHT. It may also antagonize scalp testosterone due to its action as an androgen receptor antagonist.

Hair loss treatments Cosmerna, RU, and Pyri discussed. Cosmerna inhibits androgen receptors, but not 100%, so RU/Pyri can be used synergistically.

Gym and creatine can cause hair loss by increasing testosterone and androgenic activity. DHT blockers may help some, while others need androgen suppression with topical AA like RU or Pyri.

The conversation discusses positive initial trial results for GT20029, a topical compound for hair loss that degrades androgen receptors, potentially requiring only weekly application. Participants express hope for this treatment to be more effective and convenient than current options like Minoxidil, Finasteride, and RU58841.

Fluridil, also known as Topilutamide or Eucapil, is discussed as a treatment for hair loss. It is noted as an androgen receptor antagonist, not a vasodilator.

Kintor's GT20029, a treatment for hair loss, has completed Phase 1 successfully, showing promise as an androgen receptor degrader that could potentially regrow hair. It is considered more effective than Pyrilutamide, with infrequent dosing and minimal systemic absorption.

The conversation discusses how Caucasian men are more likely to experience hair loss due to genetic predisposition, with factors like the androgen receptor on the X chromosome playing a significant role. The user also expresses confusion about the evolutionary reasons for hair loss, especially in colder climates where it would seem beneficial to retain hair for warmth.

Pyrilutamide, a potential hair loss treatment that is currently in development and may be available soon; an androgen receptor degrader which is also being developed as a potential treatment for hair loss; and the comparison between Pyrilutamide, finasteride, minoxidil, and RU58841.

The conversation discusses the potential of a new hair loss treatment, GT20029, which targets androgen receptors in the scalp and is in phase 1 trials in China. Users express hope that this treatment will be more effective than current options like Minoxidil and Finasteride.

User quit minoxidil and finasteride, starting stemoxydine, dermastamp, and dermapen for hair loss. Seeks advice on alternatives, avoiding androgen disruptors and vasodilators/vasoconstrictors.

User experienced slow gains with topical fin+min, switched to topical dut+min, and considered adding Eucapil. Another user suggested DUT may be less effective topically due to high molar mass and mentioned Fluridil as a weak anti-androgen that could help.

Hair loss treatments discussed include Minoxidil, Finasteride, RU58841, and Nizoral shampoo. Nizoral's effectiveness is debated, with some suggesting it works as a weak antagonist for androgen receptors, while others attribute its benefits to anti-fungal and anti-inflammatory properties.

User asks if stacking Alfatradiol and Fluridil is effective for hair loss. Alfatradiol is a weaker, topical 5ar inhibitor, while Fluridil is an anti-androgen preventing DHT binding to hair follicles.

The conversation discusses the removal of Breezula phase II 12-month results by Cassiopea and the search for the original data. Concerns were raised about potential negative long-term effects on hair growth, such as androgen receptor upregulation.

Bicalutamide is discussed as a treatment for hair loss, particularly in females, with some users cautioning against its use due to potential side effects. The conversation also mentions using finasteride and other anti-androgens, with some users recommending more traditional treatments like dutasteride.

Eucapil is discussed as a potential hair loss treatment with some believing it to be effective, though its efficacy compared to finasteride is debated. It is considered an anti-androgen treatment, often used alongside other treatments like minoxidil and finasteride, but lacks independent studies to fully support its effectiveness.

The user received hormone test results showing normal estradiol and testosterone levels, low SHBG, and normal free androgen index. They are considering starting finasteride but are concerned due to being slightly overweight.

The conversation discusses the potential effects of spearmint on acne and male pattern baldness (MPB). Concerns are raised about spearmint's androgen-suppressing effects and its suitability for men.

User pancake9001 experienced minimal hair growth with Minoxidil for 3 years, but noticed dramatic hair loss after stopping. Replies suggest not stopping Minoxidil and considering adding an anti-androgen for better results.

Ursolic acid, found in apple peels, lemongrass, rosemary, and lavender, may have anti-androgen effects similar to finasteride. It might be beneficial for hair health when used with other treatments like Minoxidil, Finasteride, and RU58841.

The conversation is about a user planning a blood test to monitor health while on hair loss treatments: Finasteride, Minoxidil, and Dutasteride. Recommendations include testing for androgens, thyroid function, micronutrients, and basic health markers, with additional suggestions for PSA, prolactin, and estradiol.