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The conversation discusses dissatisfaction with current hair loss treatments that mainly focus on DHT blockers like finasteride and dutasteride. Alternative treatments mentioned include RU58841, pyrilutamide, minoxidil, rosemary oil, and future possibilities like hair cloning.

DHT is essential for androgenetic alopecia, not testosterone. Treatments like finasteride and dutasteride reduce DHT, halting hair loss.

Hair loss can begin in early adolescence and cause mental anguish. Treatments mentioned include eating cruciferous vegetables, engaging in physical activity, and maintaining scalp hygiene.

Hair loss is linked to cellular physiology and the IGF-1 to TGF-B1 ratio, not just androgen sensitivity. The theory lacks evidence, while finasteride and minoxidil are effective treatments.

Clascoterone is suggested as an alternative for those who experience side effects from finasteride and dutasteride. It is not widely available yet, but some users are obtaining it from compounding pharmacies or suppliers like Echemi.

User used Finasteride, Dutasteride, and Minoxidil for one year to treat hair loss. They discussed possibly trying RU58841 or pyrilutamide in the future.

Hair loss recovery using estrogen and anti-androgen treatment for 18 months showed significant improvement. However, results vary and alternative treatments like RU58841 and Dutasteride may work without systemic feminization.

Finasteride is a controversial hair loss treatment, with some users experiencing positive results and others facing side effects like erectile dysfunction. The discussion emphasizes the importance of personal choice and informed decision-making.

The conversation discusses treatments for androgenetic alopecia, focusing on evidence-based supplements to complement finasteride. Suggestions include oral minoxidil, saw palmetto, pumpkin seed oil, tocotrienols, and various other supplements, while emphasizing the importance of scientific backing and cautioning against saw palmetto if already using finasteride.

RU58841 is discussed as a topical anti-androgen for hair loss, but its effectiveness and safety are not well-documented, leading to mixed opinions and experiences among users. Some combine it with finasteride, but concerns about side effects and lack of FDA approval limit its popularity.

Finasteride and its effects on hair loss, with discussions on the role of estradiol and estrogen. Users debate whether increased estrogen from DHT blockers contributes to hair regrowth, with concerns about potential side effects like chemical castration.

Minoxidil and finasteride work through different mechanisms; minoxidil-dependent hair requires continued use to maintain growth, while finasteride prevents further hair loss but cannot sustain minoxidil gains alone. Current treatments like minoxidil, finasteride, and others need indefinite use, as no permanent solution exists yet.

Kintor Pharma completed patient enrollment for a Phase II trial in China for GT20029, a potential new treatment for hair loss. Some believe GT20029 could replace finasteride if effective, while others discuss finasteride's limited efficacy and potential underreported side effects.

The conversation discusses the potential of developing a selective oral SARM to target androgen activity in the scalp and skin, as an alternative to oral Dutasteride and Finasteride, which have systemic side effects. It also mentions Clascoterone and RU58841 as topical treatments for hair loss.

A 20-year-old woman with androgenetic alopecia feels depressed about her hair loss, despite using topical minoxidil, spironolactone, and saw palmetto. Suggestions include trying oral minoxidil, higher doses of finasteride or dutasteride, and checking for vitamin deficiencies and heavy metal exposure.

Testosterone can still cause hair loss even when DHT is blocked by dutasteride, especially if hair follicles are sensitive. Topical treatments like RU58841 or pyrilutamide may help, but their long-term effectiveness is uncertain compared to dutasteride.

Clascoterone is a topical treatment for androgenetic alopecia, showing modest to moderate hair regrowth, and may be available by 2027-2028. It is considered safer than finasteride, with discussions on its effectiveness compared to RU58841 and pyrilutamide.

The conversation discusses the safety, tolerability, and efficacy of oral Setipiprant tablets for treating androgenetic alopecia compared to finasteride. It mentions the high cost of Setipiprant on the black market and the trial's end date in September 2017.

A woman with androgenetic alopecia uses Dutasteride and Bicalutamide but feels devastated due to increased sensitivity to DHT. She considers wigs, Minoxidil, and seeks advice on options like spironolactone, hair transplants, and therapy.

Using high doses of testosterone with RU58841 to create an androgen-free environment for hair regrowth is suggested, but concerns about heart health and the effectiveness of this approach are raised. Alternatives like topical estrogen, progesterone, and other treatments like finasteride and dutasteride are discussed.

Dutasteride raises scalp testosterone by 99%, which may not be ideal for those sensitive to all androgens. Some argue finasteride's balancing act might be better, while others believe dutasteride is superior for hair regrowth.

A 25-year-old user shared progress after two months of using 5% minoxidil nightly on their scalp and beard. Many users suggest combining minoxidil with finasteride or dutasteride to prevent hair loss due to DHT, while others express concerns about potential side effects of these DHT blockers.

Minoxidil alone is often insufficient for treating hair loss because it doesn't address the DHT-related cause. Combining it with finasteride, a DHT blocker, is generally more effective.

Breezula protects hair follicles from both testosterone and DHT, unlike finasteride, which only protects against DHT. This could potentially lead to significant hair regrowth, similar to results seen in transgender individuals using hormone blockers.

A user experienced severe chest pains and shortness of breath after using RU58841 for hair loss and was advised by a doctor that blocking androgens can weaken the heart. They decided to continue with finasteride, minoxidil, and a hair transplant instead.

The user has been using 5% minoxidil once daily and microneedling with a 1.5 mm dermaroller weekly for three months, considering increasing minoxidil usage but avoiding finasteride due to libido concerns. Another person suggests considering other treatments like RU58841, alfatradiol, topical finasteride, clascoterone, or saw palmetto since not using a DHT blocker could be less effective.

Topical melatonin may help reduce hair loss and increase hair thickness in people with androgenetic alopecia (AGA), with some studies showing positive results. It can be mixed with minoxidil for application, and its effectiveness might be enhanced when used with micro-needling, but results may vary among individuals.

The user healthydudenextdoor starting a new topical anti-androgen hair loss treatment, Pyrilutamide, and discussing their current regimen of finasteride and minoxidil.

The potential effectiveness of homemade topical spironolactone in treating hair loss, with studies suggesting it is more effective than finasteride and even minoxidil when used as monotherapy. The conversation also mentions that other anti-androgens are being developed which may soon hit the market.

The conversation discusses whether finasteride's reduction of DHT and increase in scalp testosterone contribute to hair follicle miniaturization. Some participants argue testosterone does not cause miniaturization, while others suggest that even with reduced DHT, other androgens like testosterone may still contribute to hair loss.