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Woman uses antiandrogens for hair thinning prevention, experiences severe dry eye with finasteride. Asks if dutasteride could be better despite potential for worse dry eye.

RU58841 is a strong non-steroidal antiandrogen for hair loss but may cause cardiovascular issues in some users. Alternatives like Pyrilutamide and Breezula are suggested due to better safety profiles and lower systemic risks.

The conversation discusses using scalp antiandrogens like RU58841, pyrilutamide, or fluridil on the face to reduce sebum production, noting that clascoterone (winlevi) is an approved facial antiandrogen with underwhelming reviews.

Pyrilutamide, a nonsteroidal antiandrogen drug under development for the potential treatment of androgenic alopecia. The conversation discusses its binding affinity to the androgen receptor and the timeline for possible availability after trials are completed in the United States and China.

The conversation is about someone considering using Minoxidil combined with a weak antiandrogen for hair loss, but is concerned about potential increased hair loss if they stop using Minoxidil. They are seeking others' experiences with stopping Minoxidil and the effects on their hair.

Ketoconazole shampoo does not significantly reduce systemic or scalp DHT levels and is considered a mild topical antiandrogen. Users discuss its use for scalp health rather than DHT reduction, with some preferring alternatives like dutasteride over finasteride due to perceived side effects.

The conversation discusses the high cost of CB-03-01, a topical antiandrogen for hair loss, which is considered safe and remains localized upon application. It questions whether the expense is justified compared to the lower risks it poses relative to finasteride.

An 18-year-old is experiencing severe hair loss and dandruff, feeling stressed and unable to commit to Minoxidil or handle finasteride side effects. They have tried natural oils, anti-hair fall shampoo, and consulted a dermatologist without success, and are seeking affordable treatment options.

A 20-year-old female with PCOS is experiencing hair loss and excessive facial hair. She is using ketoconazole and caffeine shampoos, microneedling, and considering anti-androgens like finasteride, but is cautious about minoxidil due to facial hair concerns.

A female with PCOS and androgenetic alopecia is starting treatment with oral Minoxidil, topical Minoxidil 5% with finasteride, and plans to add mesotherapy. She previously tried anti-androgenic contraceptive pills but couldn't tolerate them and is using Myo Inositol for weight management.

A woman with AGA is using spironolactone, dutasteride, finasteride, oral minoxidil, bicalutamide, and anti-androgenic birth control but still experiences worsening hair loss. Steroid shots temporarily stop her hair shedding, leading her to question her biopsy results.

Ketoconazole 2% shampoo stopped a user's severe hair shedding after just two uses, a result not achieved by finasteride or oral minoxidil. Some users suggest the shampoo's anti-androgenic properties may help with hair loss, while others think the shedding might have stopped naturally or due to the end of a shedding phase.

A 17-year-old is using topical minoxidil for hair loss and is considering other treatments like ketoconazole shampoo and saw palmetto while waiting to start finasteride at 19. Suggestions include using oral minoxidil, topical antiandrogens like RU58841, and CB-03-01, with a focus on minimizing systemic DHT impact.

The user shared their hair loss journey, using Minoxidil 2%, Serenoa repens, topical finasteride, a topical antiandrogen, Vitamin D, and lifestyle changes, noting improvements but still seeking more density. They are considering switching to Minoxidil 5% but prefer focusing on finasteride and antiandrogen for better results.

The user experienced significant hair shedding despite long-term use of finasteride and minoxidil, considering switching to dutasteride and increasing minoxidil dosage. Suggestions included trying topical minoxidil and adding a topical antiandrogen, but avoiding RU58841.

The conversation discusses combining oral dutasteride with topical finasteride to further reduce scalp DHT levels for hair regrowth. Users debate the effectiveness and safety of this combination, with some suggesting alternatives like topical antiandrogens such as RU58841, fluridil, and alfatradiol.

It's safe to take oral dutasteride with pyrilutamide, as many use 5-alpha-reductase inhibitors with topical antiandrogens for better results. Avoid ingesting pyrilutamide.

The user is considering a hair transplant and is using topical finasteride, minoxidil, antiandrogens, ketoconazole shampoo, and serenoa repens. They are deciding between surgeons Dogan Turan and Bruno Pinto, and are concerned about the technique and potential complications due to diffuse hair loss.

A 22-year-old male experienced significant hair regrowth and stopped shedding after using dutasteride and spironolactone for 3-4 months. Spironolactone is discussed as an antiandrogen, typically used for women or transitioning individuals, and not commonly recommended for men due to potential side effects.

The user is using oral Minoxidil 2.5 mg, oral Finasteride 1 mg, and a 2mm derma roller for hair loss but feels discouraged by the lack of results after a month. They are seeking advice and considering additional methods like antiandrogens, exercise, and dietary changes.

A user experienced increased hair density loss after 4 months on dutasteride combined with finasteride. They are also using topical dutasteride with azelaic acid and alfatradiol but cannot tolerate antiandrogens like RU58841 due to headaches.

The conversation discusses the potential for high doses of dutasteride to completely inhibit scalp DHT and speculates whether this could cure baldness when combined with a topical antiandrogen. Specific dosages mentioned are 0.5 mg reducing scalp DHT by 55% and 2.5 mg by about 79%.

Fluridil may decrease the number of androgen receptors in hair follicles by up to 95%. This suggests a different action mechanism from other non-steroidal antiandrogens like RU58841, indicating they might be used together.

The drugs RU-58841, Pyrilutamide (KX-826), Apalutamide, Enzalutamide, and Darolutamide, which are nonsteroidal antiandrogens (NSAA), potentially impacting male fertility. Pyrilutamide, similar to Enzalutamide, may have reversible effects on fertility.

Isotretinoin may cause hair loss by increasing DHT through a precursor androgen, DHEAS. Treatments like topical antiandrogens (RU58841, pyrilutamide) and drugs increasing PPAR-y expression (pioglitazone) might prevent this hair loss.

Researching the cause of hair loss and treating it by preventing DHT in the scalp with medication such as finasteride or dutasteride, estrogen, minoxidil, dermarolling, and possible topical antiandrogens.

The user added P5P (vitamin B6) to their shampoo to reduce scalp itch, which improved significantly. They have been using finasteride for hair loss but are exploring additional treatments like topical antiandrogens and prolactin inhibitors.

Alfatradiol is discussed as a weak 5ARI and estrogen, not as effective as minoxidil, RU58841, or CB-03-01, but a safe alternative for those who can't use finasteride. Users express frustration over the lack of strong FDA-approved topical antiandrogens for hair loss.

Finasteride, minoxidil, dermarolling, and topical antiandrogens are effective for hair regrowth. Future treatments may include CB0301 and hair cloning.

The user is concerned about high DHT levels despite using finasteride and dutasteride for hair loss, suggesting these treatments may not be effective. They plan to consult an endocrinologist and consider other antiandrogens, acknowledging potential side effects.