The conversation criticizes the negative attitude towards those concerned about side effects from hair loss treatments like finasteride and minoxidil, or who prefer natural remedies. Specific treatments discussed include finasteride, minoxidil, rosemary oil, and RU58841, with an agreement that finasteride and minoxidil are proven effective.
The conversation discusses starting low-dose oral finasteride for hair loss, considering hormone levels and potential side effects like gynecomastia. Suggestions include using DIM for estradiol, vitamin B6 for prolactin, and lifestyle changes to optimize hormone profiles before starting treatment.
Finasteride can cause side effects like erectile dysfunction and decreased libido, possibly due to increased estradiol from testosterone aromatization, especially in those with higher body fat. Side effects vary widely and may also be influenced by genetic factors or neurosteroid inhibition.
A user has been on finasteride for over a year with minimal hair regrowth and is considering stopping it, despite no side effects. They are also planning a hair transplant and seeking additional hair growth treatments, while managing high testosterone and scalp issues like dandruff and oiliness.
RU58841 is a strong non-steroidal antiandrogen for hair loss but may cause cardiovascular issues in some users. Alternatives like Pyrilutamide and Breezula are suggested due to better safety profiles and lower systemic risks.
A 20-year-old female is using finasteride 5mg and spironolactone 100mg for severe hirsutism and is experiencing minor side effects like water weight loss and irregular periods. She is concerned about potential future side effects and hair regrowth on her scalp.
A user is seeking hair loss treatments without using systemic DHT blockers like finasteride due to side effects. Suggestions include clascoterone (not FDA approved), pyrilutamide, RU58841, and low-dose topical finasteride, with a recommendation to consult a doctor.
In Austria, finasteride prescriptions are restricted due to suicide risk concerns, with new prescriptions only for current users. Alternatives like topical finasteride, dutasteride, and online purchases face legal challenges.
A user stopped finasteride after 15 years due to severe side effects, which improved after quitting. They maintained most of their hair and are considering alternatives like topical treatments or RU58841.
Female with PCOS experiences receding and thinning hair, wants dutasteride instead of spironolactone. Discusses desire to reduce DHT without losing libido.
User discusses group buy for finerenone, a third-gen mineralocorticoid antagonist for hair loss treatment. Finerenone inhibits TGFb, NOX, and ROS, and improves renal and cardiac function; topical dose should be no more than 10mg per day.
RU58841 is discussed as a topical anti-androgen for hair loss, but its effectiveness and safety are not well-documented, leading to mixed opinions and experiences among users. Some combine it with finasteride, but concerns about side effects and lack of FDA approval limit its popularity.
A user is using a Finoxidil topical spray and is curious if oral Finasteride would be more effective, considering they are already on a DHT blocker called Cyproterone. They are concerned about the potential impact of oral Finasteride on their transition.
A 17-year-old is concerned about potential hair loss due to maternal genetics and wonders if treatments like Minoxidil, Finasteride, or RU58841 will be effective. They hope their paternal genetics will help prevent hair loss or make treatments more effective.
The conversation humorously discusses hair loss treatments, including minoxidil and finasteride, with a satirical suggestion of using fence castration as a natural finasteride for male deer. Participants joke about the side effects and effectiveness of these treatments.
A user has been treating hair loss with finasteride for two years without success and is experiencing an itchy scalp with seborrhea. Despite low DHT levels, they are still losing hair, suggesting that DHT might not be the main cause of their hair loss, and they are considering other treatments or causes.
Hair loss treatments discussed include 200mg Spiro, bicalutamide, and finasteride. Endocrinologist advises against bicalutamide and finasteride due to potency and risks.
The conversation discusses the mechanism of action of alfatradiol (17 alpha estradiol) in treating hair loss. It explores theories that it either inhibits 5 alpha reductase to prevent T->DHT conversion or aromatizes scalp T into 17-alpha-estradiol to save hair.
DIM is suggested to help with estrogen metabolism for those on finasteride or dutasteride, potentially reversing side effects like fat gain and mood changes. Some users doubt its effectiveness, recommending lifestyle changes or consulting a doctor instead.
The conversation suggests that abstaining from ejaculation for a few months may help stop or reverse hair loss by potentially increasing testosterone and reducing DHT levels. It also mentions the use of minoxidil and finasteride as effective treatments for maintaining hair after a hair transplant.
P5P supplementation helped reverse finasteride side effects, particularly by lowering prolactin levels and restoring sensitivity. The user experienced significant improvement within a day and full recovery in a few days.
The user observed some regrowth and longer baby hairs after one month of using finasteride, despite experiencing increased shedding. They noted no side effects except for clear semen.
A 23-year-old male used 1mg finasteride and topical minoxidil for 90 days, experiencing hair growth and side effects like watery semen and lethargy. He advises continuing medication for hair growth and adopting healthy habits.
The user is applying topical finasteride with stemoxydine for hair loss and has noticed hair thickening but no regrowth after two months. They also report high SHBG and prolactin levels and a lack of morning erections, even on low doses of medication.
Finasteride may decrease free testosterone by increasing SHBG, potentially causing side effects like reduced libido and hormonal changes. Some find it effective for hair loss, while others experience negative effects.
Finasteride is effective for hair loss but can cause sexual dysfunction and mental health issues in some users, leading to a polarized debate on its risks. Some switch to alternatives like Dutasteride or topical treatments to avoid side effects.
Finasteride does not negatively impact athletic performance and may slightly increase testosterone levels. It is banned in some sports like the NBA due to its potential to mask steroid use.
The conversation discusses anticipation for CB-03-01, a potential new hair loss treatment that may be more effective and have a cleaner safety profile than finasteride. Users are hopeful but cautious, discussing current treatments like minoxidil, nizoral, and dermarolling, and the possibility of combining them with CB-03-01 for better results.