Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841 are discussed as treatments for androgenetic alopecia (AGA). The conversation questions their effectiveness and whether they are scams.
The release of a study on 5a-reductase inhibitors (finasteride and dutasteride) which showed an increased risk of depression, dementia, decreased libido, and reduced semen load as potential side effects; discussion around other forms of hair loss treatments such as topical minoxidil, RU58841, or opting to accept baldness; and advice to consider professional help for deeper issues related to hair loss.
A female user in her mid-20s with androgenetic alopecia and suspected telogene effluvium who has been taking Dutasteride, Spironolactone, Minoxidil, Dermarolling, Ketoconazol shampoo, and Yaz contraception for her hair loss for the past 6 months. She had a small shed during this time that she believes to be stress related.
Breezula's effectiveness is uncertain, with some users skeptical about its potential and others noting its recent availability on the grey market. A user reported success with a stack of Dutasteride (oral), Minoxidil (topical), and RU58841 (topical), achieving significant hair improvement after 18 months.
The user experienced side effects from finasteride and is considering switching to dutasteride, while also using pyrilutamide to protect hair follicles. They are seeking advice on whether to add RU58841 to their regimen.
The conversation discusses creating a customized minoxidil formulation with tretinoin, azelaic acid, and caffeine, but there are concerns about foam stabilization due to acidity. The user seeks advice on the best formulation for effective results.
The conversation discusses using 2% Pyrilutamide from Anagenica for hair loss, as the user did not see results with 1% Pyrilutamide. The user is considering increasing the dosage but is concerned about the cost.
The conversation discusses switching from topical to oral Minoxidil for hair loss treatment, with the expectation of better results due to systemic delivery. The user has been using Finasteride, topical Minoxidil, and dermastamping, maintaining hair but seeking more regrowth.
A 24-year-old is struggling with severe depression and anxiety due to hair loss, despite using dutasteride and oral minoxidil for two years. They are advised to consider shaving their head, exploring wigs or hair systems, and focusing on other aspects of life like health, relationships, and career.
The conversation discusses the use of RU58841, a non-FDA approved research chemical for hair loss, with mixed opinions on its safety and effectiveness. Some users are willing to try it as a last resort after other treatments like Minoxidil and Finasteride failed, while others express concerns about potential long-term side effects and lack of official research.
The conversation is about alternatives to minoxidil for hair growth, as the original poster experienced chest tightness from using it. They are currently using finasteride and considering options like rosemary oil, pumpkin seed oil, and other topical treatments, but acknowledge that minoxidil and finasteride are the most scientifically supported treatments.
An 18-year-old experienced severe side effects, including heart palpitations and high blood pressure, after using RU58841 once, leading to a referral to cardiology for suspected left ventricular hypertrophy. The user regrets using RU58841 and seeks advice on recovery, while others suggest preexisting conditions or genetic predispositions may be factors.
Topical androgen receptor antagonists may not be necessary if 5-AR inhibitors like finasteride or dutasteride effectively reduce DHT levels. Combining a 5-AR inhibitor with a topical androgen antagonist could potentially enhance treatment, but oral use of androgen antagonists is too risky due to severe side effects.
The conversation discusses the effectiveness and skepticism around topical dutasteride for hair loss, with mentions of combining it with other treatments like minoxidil and oral medications. Some users doubt its efficacy due to lack of independent studies and potential conflicts of interest.
Topical minoxidil may cause skin aging effects like wrinkles and dark circles, possibly due to its alcohol content, while oral finasteride is reported to make users look younger. Switching to oral minoxidil or using moisturizers might help reduce these skin issues.
Saw palmetto, a 5-alpha reductase inhibitor, caused unexpected side effects like breast changes and altered semen consistency, which resolved after stopping its use. Concerns about similar side effects with finasteride or dutasteride were expressed, and another user reported low libido and depression from saw palmetto.
The user experienced a slight decrease in hair shedding and scalp itch, and reduced sebum production using Pyrilutamide, but stopped due to chest pain, breathing difficulties, and heart issues. They felt normal a week after discontinuing and doubted FDA approval for the drug.
The conversation is about finding a reliable Chinese source for pyrilutamide or RU58841, ideally with a third-party Certificate of Analysis from Janoshik Analytical. The user is seeking recommendations for these hair loss treatments.
A user found relief from minoxidil-induced scalp itch by using a different product, as Nizoral dried out their scalp and worsened the condition. The conversation focuses on managing side effects of hair loss treatments.
The user has been using finasteride, dutasteride, and RU58841 for hair loss without success and feels extremely uncomfortable with their appearance, including being bald and short. They express deep unhappiness and social isolation. Suggestions from others include adopting stoicism, focusing on personal development, considering a hair system, improving fashion, working out, and seeking therapy for mental health.
The conversation discusses the frustration over the unavailability of 2.5mg dutasteride soft gels, with some users suggesting higher doses for better scalp DHT suppression. Concerns about side effects and the necessity of DHT are debated, with some users advocating for alternative treatments like RU58841 and oral minoxidil.
The conversation discusses androgen receptor degraders for hair loss, highlighting their potential advantages over traditional AR blockers like RU58841 and pyrilutamide. Concerns about the safety and cost of these treatments are also mentioned.
The conversation is about using pyrilutamide and RU58841 as topical solutions to prevent hair loss. Pyrilutamide is considered safer but less potent than RU58841, which some users find effective despite potential side effects like heart palpitations.
RU58841 hasn't stopped shedding for the user after three weeks, despite being stable on dutasteride for six years. Suggestions include continuing RU58841 for 4-6 months, considering minoxidil, and addressing stress and sleep issues.
The user is experiencing increased hair miniaturization despite using oral minoxidil, dutasteride, and microneedling. They are considering reintroducing finasteride and adjusting dutasteride dosage.