Treatments used to prevent and treat male pattern baldness, the difficulty in finding a permanent cure for hair loss, and the potential financial motivations of companies not wanting to find a cure.
Elevated bile acids can inhibit the enzyme AKR1C2, leading to increased DHT levels, which may accelerate hair loss in those predisposed to androgenetic alopecia. Treatments mentioned include topical minoxidil and finasteride.
Clascoterone in Winlevi, a topical AR antagonist, is being re-examined due to concerns about HPA axis suppression in adolescents, but it's unlikely to be banned for adult use in androgenetic alopecia (AGA). The European Medicines Agency recommended refusing Winlevi for acne vulgaris, but this may not affect Breezula's approval for AGA.
The conversation discusses the progress of Clascoterone (Breezula) for hair loss treatment, noting that COVID-19 delayed female trials by three months but Phase III trials for males are proceeding with a Special Protocol Assessment filed with the FDA. Users express hope for Breezula as an alternative to existing treatments like finasteride and minoxidil, despite concerns about its potential high cost.
The conversation discusses androgen receptor degraders for hair loss, highlighting their potential advantages over traditional AR blockers like RU58841 and pyrilutamide. Concerns about the safety and cost of these treatments are also mentioned.
Breezula (clascoterone) and Formula 82F (topical finasteride) are treatments for hair loss that block DHT differently; Breezula competes with DHT at the hormone receptor site without systemic effects, while 82F inhibits the enzyme that converts testosterone to DHT. Breezula may work for those who don't respond to finasteride and vice versa.
The user diagnosed with DUPA tried treatments like dutasteride, finasteride, RU58841, and minoxidil without success and is considering a hair system. They hope for a future cure, possibly with PP405, and others suggest options like scalp biopsy and SMP.
The drugs RU-58841, Pyrilutamide (KX-826), Apalutamide, Enzalutamide, and Darolutamide, which are nonsteroidal antiandrogens (NSAA), potentially impacting male fertility. Pyrilutamide, similar to Enzalutamide, may have reversible effects on fertility.
RU58841, an anti-androgenic compound, showed early promise for treating alopecia but faced challenges after its patent in 1997. Despite advancing to Phase II trials, safety concerns and financial struggles led Aventis to abandon its development. Proskelia, which later merged into ProStrakan, couldn't prioritize the drug, leading to its eventual stagnation and failure to reach the market.
Low testosterone and estradiol may contribute to hair loss, and blocking DHT without sufficient hormone levels might hinder regrowth. The discussion highlights the importance of hormone balance, with some considering supplements and lifestyle changes to support hair health.
Hair loss treatments discussed include 200mg Spiro, bicalutamide, and finasteride. Endocrinologist advises against bicalutamide and finasteride due to potency and risks.
Upcoming hair loss treatments for those who can't tolerate DHT blockers, focusing on Minoxidil, microneedling, and ketoconazole. Promising treatments include GT20029, PP405, KX-826, and RU58841, though RU58841 may not be safe.
The conversation discusses the effectiveness of a hair loss treatment called CB (Breezula) in comparison to Pyrilutamide, and its potential when combined with Finasteride. There is uncertainty about when or if phase 3 trials for Breezula will begin.
RU58841 is a strong non-steroidal antiandrogen for hair loss but may cause cardiovascular issues in some users. Alternatives like Pyrilutamide and Breezula are suggested due to better safety profiles and lower systemic risks.
Skepticism about hair loss research motivations, suggesting financial interests hinder finding a cure. Mentions treatments like minoxidil, finasteride, and dutasteride, but notes they are not cures.
The conversation discusses the removal of Breezula phase II 12-month results by Cassiopea and the search for the original data. Concerns were raised about potential negative long-term effects on hair growth, such as androgen receptor upregulation.
Breezula passed a clinical trial in August and there are questions about its availability in 2021 and potential delays due to Covid. No specific treatments were discussed.
Finasteride and Dutasteride are under review in the EU due to concerns about side effects like depression, but they are unlikely to be banned. Access to these medications varies, with easier availability in the UK compared to some EU countries.
Hair regrowth treatments are effective in mice but not yet available for humans. The discussion humorously highlights frustration over this disparity and mentions a project to genetically modify elephants to resemble mammoths.
Saw palmetto, a 5-alpha reductase inhibitor, caused unexpected side effects like breast changes and altered semen consistency, which resolved after stopping its use. Concerns about similar side effects with finasteride or dutasteride were expressed, and another user reported low libido and depression from saw palmetto.
Lichen Planopilaris (LPP) is an autoimmune condition causing permanent hair loss and fibrosis, often misdiagnosed. Treatments include pioglitazone, topical corticosteroids, anti-inflammatory medication, and Jak inhibitors.
The user was rejected from participating in a clinical trial for an extended-release oral Minoxidil due to having rheumatoid arthritis, despite initially being accepted. They had stopped using Dutasteride and Minoxidil to qualify but continued using other treatments like RU58841 and red light therapy.
The user is experiencing irritation from using PG with RU58841 and is seeking alternative solutions like K&B in the UK. They report redness, itchiness, and flaky skin from the current treatment.
Breezula's potential as a hair loss treatment is debated, with some seeing promise despite delays, while others suggest alternatives like Pyrilutamide. Breezula is compared to topical finasteride, with hopes for a better side effect profile.
Discussion on hair loss treatments, focusing on Breezula, with mentions of Minoxidil, finasteride, RU58841, Pyrilutamide, GT20029, and PP405. Breezula's effectiveness is uncertain, with some trials showing minimal regrowth.
A user experienced severe scalp itching with MPB and found Nizoral ineffective. A doctor diagnosed seborrheic eczema and prescribed Betacap, which relieved the itching.
The conversation discusses Fevipiprant, an asthma drug that may block CRTH2 and potentially stop male pattern baldness (MPB) without inhibiting DHT. It also mentions the use of finasteride and dutasteride for hair loss.
Biotin is being misleadingly marketed as a primary treatment for androgenic alopecia, overshadowing more effective treatments like finasteride and minoxidil. There is a call for increased awareness and accountability to prevent misinformation.
CB 03 01 (Breezula) was tried for hair loss but showed no significant improvement, with issues in dissolving and application. Finasteride and dutasteride remain the most effective treatments, while minoxidil is also used; CB's effectiveness is questioned, and topical alternatives like bicalutamide are considered.