The conversation discusses hair loss treatments, specifically RU58841, with mentions of side effects from finasteride and dutasteride. Alternatives like Pyri, KX-826, and Breezula are also mentioned.
Topical finasteride (P-3074) can inhibit scalp DHT by up to 70%, with some users experiencing systemic absorption similar to oral use. Users discuss varying application frequencies and concentrations, with some noticing side effects when overused.
The conversation is about finding cheaper alternatives for hair loss treatments. Specific treatments mentioned include finasteride and L'Oréal Paris Elvital Hyaluron Plump Leave-In Spray.
Akinfenrawr experienced negative side effects from oral finasteride and RU58841, and is seeking alternative hair loss treatments. They discuss various options, including raloxifene, oral dutasteride, liposomal finasteride, Breezula, Pyrilutamide, SM04554, and sulforaphane, but have concerns about efficacy, availability, and cost.
Minoxidil, dutasteride, and copper peptides are used in a tattooing method for hair regrowth, with some users noting better results compared to oral treatments. Copper peptides are considered to have minimal impact, but the method may reduce side effects.
PP405 targets hair follicle stem cells differently than exercise-induced lactate, suggesting exercise alone may not replicate its benefits. Minoxidil and finasteride are recommended alongside exercise for hair regrowth, with additional suggestions like spicy food and infrared exposure.
The conversation is about the safety of Breezula compared to RU58841 for hair loss treatment. The user believes Breezula is safer but less effective than RU58841.
People are discussing the potential of a new hair loss treatment, pp405, and its approval timeline, comparing it to existing treatments like Minoxidil and finasteride. There is skepticism about its effectiveness and concerns about the time it will take for approval and availability, especially in Europe.
The user reported early stage diffuse hair thinning and increased DHT levels after 4 weeks on Finasteride and 8 weeks on Finasteride plus 4 weeks on Dutasteride, despite the medications being authentic and stored properly. They are considering increasing their Dutasteride dosage due to the lack of side effects and are unsure if the treatment is helping their hair.
The user realized they didn't shake their HappyHead Topical Fin + Min before use, leading to inconsistent application of Finasteride due to sediment at the bottle's bottom. They advise others to shake their topical hair loss treatments before use.
New hair loss treatments include Breezula, PP405, ET-02, KX-826, GT20029, VDPHL01, and CosmeRNA, with some showing promise in reactivating stem cells and reversing greying. Breezula and VDPHL01 are highlighted as potential add-ons or alternatives to current treatments like finasteride and minoxidil.
Verteporfin may improve hair transplant outcomes and reduce scarring, potentially allowing patients to avoid finasteride. Dr. Barghouthi seeks collaborations, volunteers, and financial support for research on verteporfin.org.
PP405 is a promising new treatment for hair loss that activates dormant stem cells in hair follicles, potentially bypassing the effects of DHT. It is currently in phase 2 trials and could be available between 2027 and 2030, but it is not considered a definitive cure.
PP405 is expected to be a promising addition to hair loss treatments, potentially working well with existing treatments like finasteride and minoxidil, but not as a standalone solution. Users are hopeful for its effectiveness, especially in combination with other treatments, though expectations vary.
The conversation discusses whether finasteride would still be necessary if Verteporfin becomes a successful hair loss treatment. It also explores the sensitivity of transplanted hair to DHT and the potential for off-label use of Verteporfin post hair transplant.
The user is switching from oral to DIY topical finasteride due to side effects and is using a solution with 10 mg finasteride in a 100 mL mixture. They are concerned about the effectiveness of the formula due to white sediment forming in the solution.
Breezula's phase 3 results are expected in July or August, with commercialization possibly in two years. There are concerns about delays and effectiveness, and the cost may be high.
The user resumed using topical finasteride after a two-week break and will update on side effects like water retention and gynecomastia in a month. They are also starting DIM and zinc.
RU58841 is not recommended for use around children due to potential exposure risks. Alternatives like CB-03-01 might be considered, but further research is advised.
A 22-year-old male with male pattern baldness wants to use minoxidil and finasteride but can't find topical finasteride. He is considering natural DHT blockers like saw palmetto and caffeine and seeks advice on their effectiveness.
Switching from propylene glycol to glycerin in topical finasteride may reduce systemic absorption and side effects while maintaining local scalp DHT suppression. Concerns exist about glycerin's ability to deliver the full dose to hair follicles.
The potential of using Verteporfin to prevent hair loss scars and possible regrowth, with two doctors currently testing it, although the price of a 15mg bottle is expensive.
The user discusses a galenic hair lotion containing progesterone, estradiol, cyproterone, hydrocortisone butyrate, and cetirizine pheniramine, which has effectively stopped their hair loss over two years. They are curious about the compatibility of finasteride with the lotion's components and note that their trichologist has successfully used minoxidil and finasteride in similar treatments for others.
A user purchased an expensive hair loss treatment called Follicopeptide, which many others in the conversation believe to be a scam, suggesting instead the use of proven treatments like minoxidil and finasteride. Some users report positive effects from Follicopeptide, but skepticism remains high due to lack of transparency about its ingredients and the company's credibility.
The conversation is about sourcing gray market compounds, gt20029 and pp405, for hair loss treatment. The user is interested in these compounds despite their unproven status and potential risks.
Rotenone, a natural plant extract, may promote hair growth by increasing LDH activity and blocking MPC in the scalp, but it carries risks due to its toxicity. The suggested formulation includes Barbasco extract, DMSO, propylene glycol or PEG-400, ethanol, and a carrier oil.