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Oral PTD-DBM was discussed as a potential hair loss treatment, but it was deemed ineffective in humans despite promising results in mice. The conversation concluded that trying it without VPA might be unwise.

RU-58642 is a powerful anti-androgen that was not developed further, possibly due to safety concerns or financial reasons. RU58841 is a topical alternative, but it is less effective than finasteride and dutasteride, and its long-term effects are not well-studied.

FCE 28260 (PNU 156765), an under-explored 5α-reductase inhibitor, showcases promising results in research by Giudici et al., outperforming well-known treatments like Finasteride in reducing the conversion of testosterone to DHT. Its superior efficacy, demonstrated through lower IC50 values in both natural and human recombinant enzyme studies, suggests it could offer more effective management of DHT-related conditions. Additionally, its lower molecular weight hints at better potential for topical application, potentially offering advantages in treating conditions such as androgenic alopecia. Despite its potential, it has not advanced in development, possibly due to financial limitations, leaving its therapeutic prospects and side effect profile largely unexplored.

Clascoterone is a topical treatment for androgenetic alopecia, showing modest to moderate hair regrowth, and may be available by 2027-2028. It is considered safer than finasteride, with discussions on its effectiveness compared to RU58841 and pyrilutamide.

The trial for TDM-105795 has been completed, and it was in phase 2A. The discussion seeks input on the next phases, 2B or 3, based on safety and efficacy.

The conversation is about identifying the vehicle used in the Breezula (clascoterone) trial for hair loss. No specific treatments were mentioned.

Pyrilutamide is a selective AR antagonist with a high binding affinity, making it effective in competing with DHT for androgen receptors. The 1% concentration is more effective than the 0.5%, but the latter may suffice for mild hair loss; the drug is considered a good option for those avoiding 5AR blockers due to side effects.

Clascoterone is being discussed for hair loss, but its current acne formulation may not be suitable for scalp use due to potential skin irritation and lower dosage compared to Breezula. Users mention other treatments like finasteride, minoxidil, and pyrilutamide, with some expressing skepticism about clascoterone's effectiveness for hair loss.

Pyrilutamide Phase 3 approved, starting early 2022 with 416 subjects for 24 weeks. Drug potentially better than RU and Breezula, with some users reporting no side effects.

The user is considering using CB or clascoterone for hair loss, potentially as an alternative to RU. They're also contemplating asking a dermatologist for topical clascoterone cream to apply to their temple.

Clascoterone is promising for hair loss, showing 24.5% improvement in satisfaction compared to placebo. Users consider it an alternative to finasteride, with concerns about absorption and side effects.

Pyrilutamide is considered by some as an alternative for those avoiding 5AR inhibitors like finasteride and dutasteride, but opinions on its effectiveness vary. Some users report similar results with fluridil and pyrilutamide, while others find pyrilutamide less effective compared to prescription treatments.

The conversation discusses using B6 and Zinc to inhibit 5ar activity, similar to Fin and Dut. Minoxidil is mentioned as a supplementary treatment.

User taking 1mg finasteride daily for 2 years, wants to block more scalp DHT. Seeks reference for additional topical DHT blockers like alfatradiol and fluridil.

The user experienced severe side effects from finasteride, including panic attacks and suicidal thoughts, and is seeking alternative hair loss treatments. They have been using oral finasteride and topical minoxidil.

The user is considering switching from pyrilutamide to 0.025% topical finasteride due to concerns about effectiveness and past side effects from a scalp elixir. They aim to maintain hair until new treatments like breezula or GT00029 become available.

Clascoterone (Breezula) shows promising hair growth results, but skepticism remains due to past disappointments with new treatments. It may be a good alternative for those who can't tolerate finasteride or dutasteride, and can potentially be combined with them and minoxidil for better results.

A user is excited to start using Pyriltamide for hair loss after experiencing side effects from topical finasteride. Other users discuss the potential and skepticism of Pyriltamide compared to older treatments like finasteride and RU58841.

Belgium disagrees with the EMA and does not authorize the 1 mg oral form of finasteride for androgenic alopecia, citing a negative benefit-risk ratio. Despite this, some individuals in Belgium can still obtain finasteride through prescriptions, and there is debate over its mental health risks versus its benefits for hair loss and other health issues.

Somitomere used finasteride for two years, experienced mental side effects, and stopped. They are now waiting for a new treatment like Breezula.

GT20029 and pyrilutamide are both androgen antagonists but work differently; GT20029 degrades the androgen receptor, while pyrilutamide blocks DHT from binding. GT20029 is expected to have similar efficacy to CosmeRNA.

A phase 3 trial for Breezula (clascoterone solution) to treat male pattern hair loss has been listed, with 726 participants and a completion date of January 2025. Other treatments mentioned include Aneira Pharma's combination of minoxidil and latanoprost, Triple Hair's combination of minoxidil, latanoprost, and finasteride, and a new microneedling and LLLT device called StimuSIL.

The user experienced temple recession, shedding, and acne while on 0.5mg dutasteride, 1.25mg finasteride every other day, and 5mg oral minoxidil daily. They are considering switching treatments due to worsening symptoms and are contemplating using a topical anti-androgen like RU58841.

Clascoterone is considered overhyped and not as effective as finasteride or dutasteride, but it may be useful as a supportive treatment in combination with other therapies. Users express skepticism about its effectiveness compared to clinical trials, with some suggesting it could be beneficial for those who cannot tolerate other treatments.

The conversation discusses a topical finasteride therapy with hydrocortisone butyrate, estrone base, and breviline. A user suggests oral finasteride as a superior option.

CB 03 01 (Breezula) was tried for hair loss but showed no significant improvement, with issues in dissolving and application. Finasteride and dutasteride remain the most effective treatments, while minoxidil is also used; CB's effectiveness is questioned, and topical alternatives like bicalutamide are considered.

GT20029 is a topical treatment that degrades androgen receptors to prevent hair thinning and loss, potentially offering fewer side effects than systemic treatments like finasteride. Concerns include its impact on hair texture and potential systemic effects, with market availability speculated in 3 to 5 years.

The conversation discusses the need for a localized 5-alpha reductase inhibitor that only affects the scalp without systemic side effects, similar to pyrilutamide's approach. Current treatments like topical liposomal finasteride and dutasteride are mentioned, but concerns about their systemic effects and lack of research are highlighted.

The safety of combining alfatradiol and fluridil with finasteride as a potential treatment for male pattern baldness, which is approved in the European Union. Other treatments such as minoxidil and RU58841 were also discussed.

CB-03-01 is a topical anti-androgen with low absorption, offering potential as a side-effect-free alternative to Finasteride/Dutasteride for hair loss. It's in stage 2 clinical trials for acne and showing promise for male pattern baldness.