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The conversation discusses alternative and unorthodox hair loss treatments, including RU58841, nandrolone, and dianabol, as well as theoretical approaches involving high doses of estrogen and selective estrogen receptor modulators. These methods are considered extreme and potentially harmful but are explored for those unable to tolerate traditional 5-alpha reductase inhibitors.

The conversation discusses the difference between the commercially available Pyrilutamide and the version in clinical trials. It also mentions treatments like Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841 for hair loss.

The user has been using Pyrilutamide (Pyril) for hair loss for a month alongside finasteride/dutasteride since 2021 but hasn't seen results. They are considering switching to RU58841 due to its many success stories, despite being skeptical about the legitimacy and testing of Pyrilutamide.

The user is seeking advice on sourcing finasteride, dutasteride, and minoxidil, as their doctors are unwilling to prescribe both finasteride/dutasteride and minoxidil simultaneously. They are also looking for sources of GHK-Cu and RU58841 in the USA, with suggestions including using services like Hims, ro.co, and Musely.

The user applies a topical solution containing minoxidil, finasteride, dutasteride, retinoic acid, and hydrocortisone to address scalp inflammation and is considering adding cetirizine to the mix. They are calculating the correct amount of cetirizine to add to their formula and have paused this approach to retry oral minoxidil.

The user has been using finasteride, minoxidil, and needling for 11 months with limited progress and plans to add sulforaphane for 3 months. Another user suggested trying Procyanidin B2 for better results.

RU58841, an anti-androgenic compound, showed early promise for treating alopecia but faced challenges after its patent in 1997. Despite advancing to Phase II trials, safety concerns and financial struggles led Aventis to abandon its development. Proskelia, which later merged into ProStrakan, couldn't prioritize the drug, leading to its eventual stagnation and failure to reach the market.

The conversation discusses adding either RU58841 or pyrilutamide to a hair loss treatment regimen that already includes oral dutasteride and oral minoxidil. RU58841 is considered the stronger anti-androgen but may have more side effects.

The user is seeking an alternative solvent for pyrilutamide due to skin irritation from ethanol and propylene glycol. They experienced similar issues with topical minoxidil.

A user is seeing good results with RU58841 for hair loss, noting reduced shedding and thicker hair. They plan to use pumpkin seed oil as a solvent to avoid water content, which they believe reduces the effectiveness of anti-androgens.

RU58841 can be ordered as a powder and compounded at home, but it should be stored at room temperature to avoid crystallization. Pyraulatmide may follow a similar principle.

The conversation is about choosing a topical antiandrogen for hair loss, with options including RU58841, CB0301, Pyrolutamide, Alfatradiol, and Fluridil. Users discuss their preferences and reasons for selecting specific treatments.

The conversation discusses optimizing sulforaphane in broccoli sprouts by soaking them in water at 74 degrees Celsius for 10 minutes. It also mentions hair loss treatments like Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841.

User experienced slow gains with topical fin+min, switched to topical dut+min, and considered adding Eucapil. Another user suggested DUT may be less effective topically due to high molar mass and mentioned Fluridil as a weak anti-androgen that could help.

The user does not respond well to minoxidil and is seeking an alternative to Tretinoin to upregulate sulfurtransferase activity for hair loss treatment. No specific alternative treatments were mentioned.

Purchasing Pyrilutamide for hair loss treatment in India, and exploring the possibility of utilizing Minoxidil, Finasteride, and RU58841 as alternatives.

Hair loss discussion involves experimenting with Sulforaphane from broccoli sprouts and possibly procyanidin b2. People seek updates on progress and if it's worth adding to treatment stack like microneedling.

Alternative treatments for hair loss such as Procapil, Redensyl, and Baicapil being compared to Minoxidil, Finasteride, and RU58841.

A peptide from Japanese water chestnut fruit may help with hair loss by suppressing DHT's effect on hair follicle cell death, potentially serving as a finasteride alternative. The treatment's effectiveness and safety in humans remain uncertain.

The conversation is about sourcing gray market compounds, gt20029 and pp405, for hair loss treatment. The user is interested in these compounds despite their unproven status and potential risks.

The user experienced severe side effects when using topical Dutasteride and RU58841 together and is considering using them at different times of the day. They are seeking advice on whether this approach might reduce side effects.

The efficacy of degrading the androgen receptor through dermal application in DP cells, a delivery system for topical drugs that involves dissolving microneedles, and rosemary oil as an alternative anti-androgen.

A user is seeking a new source for RU58841 in the EU after their previous supplier stopped selling it. They mention considering Anagen, Actifolic, Minoxidilmax, and rudirect, and are using a treatment mixing RU58841 with Stemoxydine and Alfatradiol.

A user is seeking a new source for RU58841 in the EU after their previous supplier stopped selling it. They mention considering Anagen, Actifolic, Minoxidilmax, and rudirect, and are using a treatment mixing RU58841 with Stemoxydine and Alfatradiol.

Kintor Pharmaceutical's Phase 2 results with the drug Pyrilutamide, a potential alternative to 5-ARI drugs like Finasteride and Dutasteride but without the side effects. It could be used in combination with other topical treatments such as Minoxidil. The safety of the drug has been demonstrated in 6 months of use, however there are still questions about long term efficacy and systemic absorption.

Concerns about a potential ban on finasteride and dutasteride due to side effects, with users advocating for continued access and informed choice. Alternative treatments like pyrilutamide are also mentioned.

Using DIM and Calcium D-Glucarate to reduce finasteride side effects. Discussion includes dosage, brand, and product effectiveness.

RU-58642 is a powerful anti-androgen that was not developed further, possibly due to safety concerns or financial reasons. RU58841 is a topical alternative, but it is less effective than finasteride and dutasteride, and its long-term effects are not well-studied.

The conversation is about gathering serum DHT data from individuals taking dutasteride to investigate its efficacy, especially in cases with unexpectedly low DHT reduction. The aim is to explore potential genetic factors affecting drug metabolism.

Fluridil may decrease the number of androgen receptors in hair follicles by up to 95%. This suggests a different action mechanism from other non-steroidal antiandrogens like RU58841, indicating they might be used together.