Clascoterone is suggested as an alternative for those who experience side effects from finasteride and dutasteride. It is not widely available yet, but some users are obtaining it from compounding pharmacies or suppliers like Echemi.
Melatonin's effect on aromatase expression is unclear, with studies showing both increases and decreases. Hormonal impacts are complex and inconsistent, similar to changing health advice on other substances.
Reducing the dose of Pyrilutamide from 5mg to 2.5mg may still maintain hair loss results, but effectiveness can vary. Users discuss the cost and dosage implications, with some cautioning against reducing the dose due to its dose-dependent nature.
A user started using RU58841 for hair loss and experienced anxiety and physical discomfort. Other users suggested avoiding the treatment due to similar side effects and recommended alternative treatments like pyri.
DHT causes hair loss by driving cells into senescence, and a polyphenol in black chokeberry may reverse this. A product using this theory is being considered for use alongside finasteride, minoxidil, and microneedling.
Clascoterone (CB) shows an excellent safety profile with no serious side effects, but its effectiveness may decline after six months, making it more suitable as an adjunct treatment with finasteride and minoxidil rather than a standalone solution. Some argue it could be better than finasteride due to its protection against testosterone, but its long-term efficacy remains debated.
FOL-005 claims to be more effective than Minoxidil and Finasteride but lacks anti-DHT properties, leading to potential reduced efficacy over time. Concerns are raised about misleading marketing and the safety of alternative treatments like Pyrilutamide and Clascoterone.
Topical pirfenidone is highlighted as an effective anti-inflammatory and anti-fibrotic treatment for hair loss, particularly in addressing perifollicular fibrosis, which may enhance the effectiveness of standard treatments like finasteride and minoxidil. The user also uses calcipotriol, MCT oil, ciclopirox shampoo, and benzoyl peroxide shampoo as part of their regimen.
The conversation discusses hair loss treatments, specifically the progress made with Pyrilutamide over 15 months. One person suggests using oral Minoxidil or Dutasteride, but another mentions experiencing negative side effects from oral Finasteride.
The conversation is about finding a reliable Chinese source for pyrilutamide or RU58841, ideally with a third-party Certificate of Analysis from Janoshik Analytical. The user is seeking recommendations for these hair loss treatments.
The conversation discusses whether using pyrilutamide would interfere with minoxidil's ability to regrow hair, considering pyrilutamide is seen as a maintenance drug that stops shedding, while minoxidil promotes hair growth but causes initial shedding.
Caffeine may interfere with oral minoxidil because caffeine increases blood pressure while minoxidil lowers it. Users discuss potential interactions and effects on hair loss treatment.
The user started a hair care routine using 0.5mg finasteride daily, 2ml of 5% minoxidil, and 4.5mg of cetirizine topically to address hair loss. They plan to provide updates and are also interested in cetirizine's potential to reduce scalp itching and redness due to its anti-inflammatory properties.
Maximum serum DHT suppression for finasteride occurs at 8 hours, while for dutasteride, it occurs within 1 to 2 weeks with daily dosing. Dutasteride mesotherapy will be followed by blood tests to check serum DHT changes.
Pyrilutamide shows promising hair growth results, but skepticism exists due to potential biases and lack of blinding in the study. Concerns about side effects and legitimacy of the product persist, with comparisons to finasteride and discussions on post-finasteride syndrome.
The user switched from finasteride to 2.5 mg dutasteride daily and added 1% pyrilutamide to address persistent scalp itch, but the itch remains. They also use 2% ketoconazole and 2.5% selenium sulfide shampoo for temporary relief.
Mixing RU58841 with cetosomal minoxidil is discussed due to scalp irritation from ethanol PG vehicles. A mixture of the two turned bright pink when left to dry.
The conversation concludes that finasteride, a 5α-Reductase inhibitor used for hair loss, does not impair cognition either short-term or long-term. It suggests "brain fog" is not caused by the medication.
Clascoterone in Winlevi, a topical AR antagonist, is being re-examined due to concerns about HPA axis suppression in adolescents, but it's unlikely to be banned for adult use in androgenetic alopecia (AGA). The European Medicines Agency recommended refusing Winlevi for acne vulgaris, but this may not affect Breezula's approval for AGA.
PP405's phase 2a trial results were presented, focusing on safety and pharmacokinetics, with a future meeting planned to share the full dataset. The trial includes a randomized controlled portion and an open-label extension, with no indication of phase 2B completion.
The user is using 0.1% dutasteride, 1% minoxidil with 2% procapil and 0.005% caffeine in the morning, and 1% minoxidil with 2% procapil and 0.01% tretinoin at night. They are concerned about the solution vehicle's effectiveness in preventing systemic absorption and ensuring the products stay around the hair follicles.
Tazarotene may be more effective than tretinoin when combined with topical minoxidil for hair loss due to its selective binding to RAR-beta and gamma, though it can cause irritation. Tazarotene's potency can lead to indirect inflammatory reactions despite potentially causing less irritation than tretinoin.
Pyrilutamide, a drug in phase 3 trials in China, potentially becoming available in late 2023 or early 2024; Finasteride being used as a current treatment for hair loss; and the possibility of joining a group buy for black market versions of Pyrilutamide.
The user reduced serum DHT by 60% using Advanced Trichology's natural DHT blocker but saw no improvement in hair loss. They are considering switching to finasteride due to its proven effectiveness in inhibiting scalp DHT.
A user's six month progress with Pyrilutamide, a hair loss treatment; they experienced positive results such as stopped itching and shedding, as well as regrowth, without any side effects.
The user plans to use RU58841 in the morning and Pyrilutamide in the evening for hair loss treatment, considering replacing Fluridil with Pyrilutamide. They believe Pyrilutamide is effective.
The conversation discusses a topical finasteride therapy with hydrocortisone butyrate, estrone base, and breviline. A user suggests oral finasteride as a superior option.