The conversation discusses using RU58841, Minoxidil, and finasteride for hair loss treatment. It focuses on homebrewing RU58841 while using other treatments.
The conversation is about someone experiencing continued hair loss despite using Pyrilutamide and considering the need for more time or better quality control for the treatment. Another person suggests waiting for the drug to be officially approved due to potential quality issues with current products.
A 22-year-old male with male pattern baldness wants to use minoxidil and finasteride but can't find topical finasteride. He is considering natural DHT blockers like saw palmetto and caffeine and seeks advice on their effectiveness.
An 18-year-old has been using 5% topical minoxidil for 2 months for hair loss, with a history of vitamin D deficiency and thyroid imbalance. Users suggest starting finasteride and blocking DHT for androgenetic alopecia (AGA).
Pyrilutamide is discussed as a potential hair loss treatment, acting as an androgen receptor antagonist. The conversation questions if it can maintain hair long-term without using finasteride.
Kintor Pharma completed patient enrollment for a Phase II trial in China for GT20029, a potential new treatment for hair loss. Some believe GT20029 could replace finasteride if effective, while others discuss finasteride's limited efficacy and potential underreported side effects.
The user is anxious about potential side effects of finasteride, particularly PFS, and is considering reinstating it for hair loss treatment. They experienced anxiety-induced side effects previously and are seeking advice on overcoming their fear of restarting finasteride.
Kintor Pharma has started a Phase II trial in China for GT20029, a potential new treatment for hair loss. Participants are discussing the significance, potential release dates, and comparing it to other treatments and technologies like stem cell hair transplants and SAMIRNA.
Despite using 5% minoxidil, 0.1% finasteride, and other treatments like microneedling, MK-677, and Cialis, hair loss continues with high testosterone and DHT levels. Considering oral dutasteride but concerned about further increasing testosterone levels.
A 26-year-old male with high testosterone is experiencing diffuse hair thinning despite using a comprehensive treatment regimen including dutasteride, oral minoxidil, RU58841, ketoconazole shampoo, microneedling, and low-level laser therapy. Suggestions include adjusting dutasteride dosage, monitoring iron levels, and consulting a dermatologist for further evaluation.
The conversation discusses the effectiveness of RU58841 for hair loss compared to pyrilutamide, which failed to show significant hair regrowth in trials. Some users report personal side effects with RU58841 and question the criteria for success in hair loss treatments.
Turmeric may slightly inhibit DHT, but it likely doesn't significantly impact hair loss. Creatine might increase DHT levels, but its effect on hair loss is debated and not conclusively proven.
Hair loss treatments, specifically 5AR inhibitors, can impact neurosteroids and sexual health. The effects of topical fin/dut on tissue-specific DHT levels are unclear.
A 17-year-old started using 1mg oral finasteride in April 2025 and increased oral minoxidil from 1.25mg to 2.5mg by December 2025. Users discuss progress, initial shedding, and suggest checking vitamin and mineral levels.
A user's hair regrowth journey using biotin and minoxidil after initial treatments with Nizoral shampoo and Ketoconazole serum didn't work. The comments suggest the hair loss might not be male pattern baldness (MPB), but possibly Alopecia Areata, an autoimmune disorder, and recommend getting a second opinion and considering other treatments like corticosteroids.
The conversation discusses the synthesis and potential use of JXL069 and PP405 for hair loss treatment, with skepticism about their effectiveness and concerns about safety. Users mention that JXL069 has shown no results in hair growth, and there is confusion about its identity and effectiveness compared to PP405.
A user is struggling with hair loss at 17 and has been using finasteride for 5 months and minoxidil for 11 months without seeing regrowth. Other users encourage continuing treatment, sharing their own experiences with finasteride, minoxidil, and dermarolling, and emphasizing patience and acceptance.
The conversation discusses the differences between PG/Ethanol and KB solutions for RU58841 application, focusing on potential scalp irritation. KB solution is suggested for those allergic to PG, though both contain ethanol which can dry the scalp.
The conversation is about the best vehicle for RU58841, comparing trichosol and Garnier/Vichy Stemoxydine, avoiding propylene glycol (PG) or ethanol due to previous scalp damage. The user is also seeking sources for these products in the EU.
The user reported significant hair regrowth and stopped hair loss after using Pyrilutamide and Minoxidil for four months. They found Pyrilutamide effective in blocking DHT locally without side effects, preferring a gray market version over Koshine's product.
A human trial of verteporfin, a drug that can inhibit wound healing by scarring and promote regeneration of original tissue and hair follicles to provide an unlimited source for hair transplants; people discussed the potential of this drug and how it could be rolled out in mainstream with more doctors getting on board.
The user experienced severe side effects from finasteride, including hormonal imbalances and cognitive issues, leading to a recommendation to stop its use. They plan to follow up with tests to rule out a pituitary tumor and are considering topical treatments as alternatives.
Creatine may increase DHT levels, potentially affecting hair loss, but evidence is mostly anecdotal. A study to explore this was withdrawn due to funding issues.
Tazarotene may be more effective than tretinoin when combined with topical minoxidil for hair loss due to its selective binding to RAR-beta and gamma, though it can cause irritation. Tazarotene's potency can lead to indirect inflammatory reactions despite potentially causing less irritation than tretinoin.
Finasteride users have mixed experiences with creatine; some experience increased hair loss, while others do not. Finasteride's DHT-blocking effects might counteract any DHT increase from creatine, but individual responses vary.
The user is concerned about the interaction between dutasteride and ketoconazole, leading them to stop using ketoconazole shampoo, which has resulted in an oily and painful scalp. They are unsure whether ketoconazole increases or decreases the potency of dutasteride.
A user is concerned about taking 1mg/day of finasteride due to potential gynecomastia, given their blood results. They seek advice on how their hormone levels might be affected by blocking DHT.
The user has been using topical finasteride since October without improvement and is considering adding a caffeine product with dimethylglycine. Another user suggests caffeine is more promising and advises consulting a dermatologist about the lack of progress with finasteride.
Hair loss treatments discussed include Minoxidil, Finasteride, and RU58841. Anageninc stopped selling KX-826 (Pyrilutamide) due to a cease and desist letter from Kintor, but this may indicate promising study results and a potential 2024 release.