People are waiting for KX-826 (Pyrilutamide) Phase 2 data to decide on hair loss treatments, with some considering finasteride or minoxidil in the meantime. Pyrilutamide is seen as a potentially stronger and safer alternative to finasteride, but concerns about side effects and availability remain.
A user shared their 14-month progress using Pyrilutamide and Minoxidil for hair loss, noting improvement and no side effects with these treatments, unlike their negative experiences with Finasteride and RU58841. They emphasized the importance of consistent application for seeing results.
The conversation discusses regret over delaying hair loss treatment, specifically with finasteride, and the emotional impact of hair loss. The user eventually stabilized their hair using oral finasteride after trying other treatments like topical finasteride, Fluridil, and Alfatradiol, and is considering future options like a hair transplant.
Balancing hormones, particularly testosterone and DHT, may prevent hair loss and slow aging. Treatments include finasteride, dutasteride, zinc, magnesium, collagen, and natural DHT-blocking shampoos.
PP405 may revive dormant hair follicles, and DHT blockers like finasteride or dutasteride could maintain new hair. Combining PP405 with minoxidil might be optimal, but long-term effects and continuous use are uncertain.
The conversation concludes that finasteride, a 5α-Reductase inhibitor used for hair loss, does not impair cognition either short-term or long-term. It suggests "brain fog" is not caused by the medication.
KY19382, a promising compound for hair loss, is not widely discussed or used. One user is currently testing it and plans to share results in a few weeks.
PP405 shows initial promise for treating androgenetic alopecia, with safety confirmed in early trials, but skepticism remains due to limited data. Further trials are needed to determine its true efficacy and potential market impact.
The user has been using finasteride for over two years with mixed results and is considering starting dutasteride and oral minoxidil, though both are hard to obtain. They are also contemplating a hair transplant in the future due to diffuse thinning.
A 22-year-old with advanced diffuse thinning is considering oral dutasteride after stopping finasteride due to side effects like brain fog and testicular pain. They are also contemplating a hair transplant combined with oral dutasteride and topical finasteride, noting a thick donor area.
The conversation discusses a user's 3.5-month experience using pyrilutamide and minoxidil for hair loss, with some perceived improvement in the temples but potential recent regression. Another user suggests that maintaining the current hairline, even without improvement, is positive.
The user is frustrated about not hearing any updates on the HMI-115 trial for hair loss. They are questioning if there will be any updates in the future.
Start hair loss treatment as soon as you notice thinning to prevent further loss; finasteride and minoxidil are suggested treatments, with the option to switch to topical treatments if side effects occur. Some regret not starting treatment earlier, and maintaining current hair is more likely than regrowth.
The conversation is about finding an affordable and effective low level laser therapy device for hair loss, with a preference for a cap but open to a comb.
PP405 shows promising results for hair density improvement, potentially outperforming Minoxidil in a shorter time. However, its public release is expected around 2029/2030, and its cost and availability remain uncertain.
Dutasteride and finasteride are not effective for everyone in treating hair loss, with some users experiencing worsening conditions. Many are hopeful for new treatments like PP405, while others consider hair transplants or alternative medications.
Getting a hair transplant without using finasteride or dutasteride for at least two years can waste donor hair, as these medications can lead to significant hair regrowth in areas like the crown and mid-scalp. Delaying a transplant allows for better results by maximizing natural regrowth and preserving donor hair for more needed areas.
Pelage Pharmaceuticals is developing PP405, a topical treatment for hair growth, currently in Phase 2a trials. There is skepticism about the company's claims, and no fast-tracking approval timeline has been detailed.
A user shared progress pictures 1.5 months after a hair transplant of 3500 grafts, using oral finasteride, topical finasteride, minoxidil, and vitamins. They are concerned about potential shock loss and the thinning appearance.
PP405 is a potential hair loss treatment that inhibits mitochondrial pyruvate carriers, increasing lactate dehydrogenase activity and stimulating hair follicle stem cells. In a phase 1 trial, 31% of participants showed over 20% hair density increase with PP405 treatment.
The conversation discusses whether to switch from Finasteride to Dutasteride for hair loss treatment. Some suggest switching to Dutasteride now due to its effectiveness, while others recommend waiting to see how Finasteride performs, especially if there are no side effects.
RU-58642 is a powerful anti-androgen that was not developed further, possibly due to safety concerns or financial reasons. RU58841 is a topical alternative, but it is less effective than finasteride and dutasteride, and its long-term effects are not well-studied.
The conversation humorously discusses the fictional "Post PP405 Syndrome" and the idea of starting a foundation or cult around it. It mentions skepticism about the effectiveness of PP405 and jokes about future therapies.
Fluridil was abandoned due to its weak effectiveness and low binding affinity to the androgen receptor, making it less competitive against DHT and testosterone. Users discuss its limited results compared to other treatments like pyrilutamide and RU58841.
Norwood 7 hair loss is often excluded from trials to ensure treatments appear more effective and to reduce costs. Some believe treatments effective for Norwood 5 could work on Norwood 7, but companies prioritize market readiness.
Capilia Longa and Scandinavian Biolabs are discussed, with skepticism about their effectiveness and value. The conversation suggests avoiding these products due to high cost and perceived lack of results.
A 25-year-old male with DUPA (diffuse thinning including the donor area) has not seen improvement after 14 months on finasteride. He's considering switching to dutasteride (DUT) after advice from a hair loss YouTuber and is also contemplating trying RU58841.