The conversation is about using natural DHT blockers like saw palmetto, pumpkin seed oil, and stinging nettle extract for hair loss. Saw palmetto is noted to potentially halt mild hair loss.
Using dutasteride or finasteride can increase free testosterone, which may convert to estradiol, potentially causing side effects like increased estrogen levels. Individual responses vary, and some users report changes in cholesterol, hair texture, and side effects like gyno or increased sex drive.
A 24-year-old with hair thinning is using a regimen including dutasteride, RU58841, HGH, GHK-cu, and other compounds to protect and regrow hair. They are also incorporating a mild cutting cycle with testosterone propionate, anavar, and tirzepatide.
Dutasteride is preferred over finasteride for hair loss due to fewer side effects. Combining dutasteride with minoxidil and RU58841 is effective for hair regrowth, even during steroid use.
A user experienced negative side effects, including low libido and lack of motivation, after using finasteride for hair loss and felt better after stopping it. Others shared similar experiences with finasteride and dutasteride, while some reported no side effects, showing varied individual responses.
The impact of creatine on DHT levels, and whether it could cause accelerated male pattern baldness (MPB). The user taking a 5 alpha reductase inhibitor found that their DHT levels actually reduced despite taking creatine for nine weeks. Replies suggested looking into testosterone levels as well and debating the safety of creatine use in relation to MPB.
Finasteride and Dutasteride block DHT, which is needed for vellus hair to become terminal on the beard but not on the scalp. The user considered using DHT cream but learned it's unnecessary for scalp hair.
The user is experiencing hair loss despite using finasteride and dutasteride and is considering adding minoxidil. Suggestions include switching to daily dutasteride and adding a topical anti-androgen.
Using high doses of testosterone with RU58841 to create an androgen-free environment for hair regrowth is suggested, but concerns about heart health and the effectiveness of this approach are raised. Alternatives like topical estrogen, progesterone, and other treatments like finasteride and dutasteride are discussed.
The discussion is about whether to continue reducing finasteride dosage with already low DHT levels. Treatments mentioned include minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841.
Finasteride can reduce DHT in the genitalia, potentially causing side effects like reduced erections and penile fibrosis. Using PDE5 inhibitors like Tadalafil or Sildenafil may help maintain penile health and prevent fibrosis.
The user increased their steroid dosage and noticed hair shedding, so they adjusted their regimen by reducing steroid doses and adding oral dutasteride. They are also experimenting with combining RU-58841 and KX-826/pyrilutamide in minoxidil to address hair loss.
A user on finasteride for hair loss is considering topical dutasteride to further reduce scalp DHT and is using various other topicals as substitutes for minoxidil due to concerns about the safety of their cats and potential heart side effects from oral minoxidil. They are exploring whether a once-weekly application of topical dutasteride would be effective.
OP experienced side effects from finasteride and is considering using RU58841 to prevent hair loss during a testosterone cycle. They have also used minoxidil, Nizoral, alfatradiol, and fluridil successfully.
The conversation discusses hair loss treatments, specifically mentioning pyrilutamide, minoxidil, and finasteride. The consensus suggests starting treatment early, with finasteride being a preferred option.
Dutasteride and finasteride can affect libido differently, with some experiencing increased libido and others decreased libido or erectile dysfunction. Dutasteride may increase testosterone levels but can also cause side effects like liver enzyme changes, while topical finasteride may have fewer sexual side effects.
A 19-year-old experienced significantly low testosterone levels after one month of taking finasteride. Suggestions included checking test units, retesting, and exploring other potential causes.
Dutasteride at 0.5mg blocks 50% of scalp DHT, while higher doses like 1mg and 2.5mg block more, with 2.5mg blocking up to 80%. Some users report better results with lower doses, and there's confusion about the effectiveness of different dosages on scalp versus serum DHT.
Dutasteride and finasteride may temporarily affect semen quality but are unlikely to cause permanent infertility. The Kim et al. study is criticized for poor methodology, and many prefer hair retention over potential fertility concerns, using treatments like dutasteride, finasteride, and minoxidil.
Dutasteride is associated with increased blood glucose, HbA1c, LDL cholesterol, and liver enzyme activity, potentially leading to diabetes, NAFLD, and liver metabolism changes. The conversation highlights concerns about these adverse effects and calls for more studies, including on finasteride.
A user is trying fluridil/topilutamide for hair loss and experiencing side effects like pain in the testicles and genital discomfort. They previously had adverse effects with finasteride, dutasteride, and RU58841, and are considering other treatments like topical dutasteride and spironolactone for maintenance before a hair transplant.
Pyrilutamide is being discussed as an alternative for those who can't use finasteride, but users report it may be ineffective at low concentrations. Some users are combining it with minoxidil, microneedling, and other treatments, but results vary.
RU-58642 is a powerful anti-androgen that was not developed further, possibly due to safety concerns or financial reasons. RU58841 is a topical alternative, but it is less effective than finasteride and dutasteride, and its long-term effects are not well-studied.
Blocking DHT is not a complete solution for hair loss; instead, altering the scalp's response to DHT may be more effective. Topical finasteride and minoxidil are current treatments, but future approaches may involve bioengineering, gene therapy, and inflammation control.
Creatine may increase DHT levels, but its impact on hair loss is unclear and not well-studied. Many users report no significant hair loss while using creatine alongside finasteride, though some experience increased shedding.
The conversation discusses using topical dutasteride as an alternative to oral finasteride to prevent hair shedding caused by creatine supplementation. Users share experiences with finasteride, dutasteride, and creatine, noting potential side effects and effectiveness concerns with topical treatments.
A user suggests making a potent sulforaphane topical to degrade DHT and promote hair growth. Another user notes that sulforaphane's low molecular weight might also lower systemic DHT.
Topical dutasteride, particularly at 0.05%, shows greater hair density improvement than oral finasteride over 24 weeks, though hair thickness gains are similar. Some users report side effects with topical treatments, but others find them effective for maintaining hair without significant systemic absorption.
The user experiences severe side effects from finasteride and dutasteride, including low libido and anxiety, and is currently using oral minoxidil despite shortness of breath. They are seeking alternative treatments for hair loss, having tried pyrilutamide, fluridil, and RU58841 with no success, and are considering future treatments or a hair transplant.
User experienced 100% testosterone increase after using Finasteride and Dutasteride for hair loss. Some users discuss potential side effects and reasons for the increase.