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People discussed their experiences with anti-androgens for hair loss, mentioning side effects like chest pains with RU58841 and skepticism due to lack of safety data, while considering Fluridil as a potential addition to treatment. Some users expressed reluctance to use these chemicals.

The conversation discusses the potential of topical cetirizine (Zyrtec) for hair growth in comparison to minoxidil, noting cetirizine's ability to reduce prostaglandin D2, which inhibits hair growth. Users share mixed experiences with cetirizine for allergies and scalp health, and there's a mention of the risk of dementia with long-term antihistamine use.

RU58841, an anti-androgenic compound, showed early promise for treating alopecia but faced challenges after its patent in 1997. Despite advancing to Phase II trials, safety concerns and financial struggles led Aventis to abandon its development. Proskelia, which later merged into ProStrakan, couldn't prioritize the drug, leading to its eventual stagnation and failure to reach the market.

The conversation discusses that dutasteride may be more effective than finasteride for frontal hair loss due to higher 5ar Type 1 enzyme activity in that area. Some users question the validity of this information, while others confirm it with additional sources.

Piroctone olamine may be more effective and gentler than ketoconazole for dandruff and itchiness. Users report better results with piroctone olamine, but it is less available in the US.

The conversation discusses using gartanin from mangosteen mixed with castor oil to degrade the androgen receptor for hair loss treatment. Alternatives like setipiprant, minoxidil, and dermastamping are also mentioned, with concerns about cost and potential side effects.

The conversation discusses using a multimodal approach to treat androgenic alopecia, including substances like gamma-linolenic acid, DHA, sulforaphane, melatonin, cetirizine, astaxanthin, fisetin, apigenin, curcumin, limonene, genistein, and berberine. Users also mention using ketoconazole, minoxidil, and low-level laser therapy (LLLT) as part of their hair loss treatment regimens.

Recruitment for a verteporfin trial and a separate hair cloning trial using verteporfin and other methods is underway, with locations in Jordan, NYC, Beverly Hills, and Memphis. Dr. Bloxham is conducting the hair cloning trial, and interested participants are encouraged to contact him directly.

RU58841 stopped scalp itching for the user, providing relief from persistent itchiness associated with hair loss. Some users reported side effects like chest pain, while others found relief with different treatments like mometasone.

A user is experimenting with applying undiluted peppermint oil to their scalp daily to stimulate hair growth, based on a rat study where peppermint oil outperformed minoxidil. The user reports immediate hair thickening and increased scalp blood flow, while others in the conversation express skepticism, humor, and concern about the undiluted application.

The user has DUPA and suspects autoimmune activity as a cause. They have tried various treatments including finasteride, minoxidil, dutasteride, pyrilutamide, estrogel, hydrocortisone, and clobetasol, and are now seeking a long-term immunosuppressant.

The user is experiencing scalp itching from a PG ethanol base in their hair loss treatment, which includes 0.025% finasteride and 2.5% minoxidil, and is seeking alternatives without PG or ethanol. Suggestions include Zeuss non-PG foam and Ulo, which do not use PG or hydrocortisone.

Availability of topical anti-androgens, especially RU58841, in Australia. Issues with customs seizures and lack of credible local sources.

The user experienced side effects from RU58841, including dry eyes and potential eyesight issues, and decided to stop using it. They confirmed the product's legitimacy but advised caution due to its experimental status and lack of safety data.

A user discussed the "Rootique Duo," a device that turns minoxidil into mist for scalp application, but others suggested cheaper alternatives like an AliExpress applicator. Some users prefer traditional methods like droppers or spray nozzles, especially for longer hair.

Breezula (clascoterone) and Formula 82F (topical finasteride) are treatments for hair loss that block DHT differently; Breezula competes with DHT at the hormone receptor site without systemic effects, while 82F inhibits the enzyme that converts testosterone to DHT. Breezula may work for those who don't respond to finasteride and vice versa.

RU58841 is not recommended for use around children due to potential exposure risks. Alternatives like CB-03-01 might be considered, but further research is advised.

This post and conversation are about the effects of Minoxidil on renal electrolytes transport in the Loop of Henle. The replies show a lack of interest and a brief summary stating that rectal Minoxidil electrolytes are bad.

The conversation discusses the effects of using Tongkat ali and dioscorea to raise DHT levels, leading to increased body hair growth and an itchy scalp, without causing hair loss. The discussion also debates the role of DHT in male characteristics and its impact on sexual function, with differing opinions on its importance and effects.

The user is asking if it's safe to use a glass dropper from a finished RU58841 product with a new RU58841 product and if cleaning it with water is sufficient. They are concerned about the quality of the plastic dropper that came with the new product.

Clascoterone (Breezula) showed positive results for treating hair loss without affecting cortisol levels. Opinions vary, with some users optimistic about its potential and others critical of its effectiveness compared to existing treatments like finasteride.

A user reported less hair shedding using melatonin spray and is considering trying topical oxytocin or estrogel for hair growth, but is concerned about potential side effects like breast development. Topical oxytocin has been found to promote hair growth by increasing growth factors.

A user experienced burning, itching, and soreness on their scalp after a perm in 2021, despite using oral finasteride, oral minoxidil, and ketoconazole shampoo. They are seeking advice on whether to pursue further medical tests or consult a neurologist for nerve pain.

Akinfenrawr experienced negative side effects from oral finasteride and RU58841, and is seeking alternative hair loss treatments. They discuss various options, including raloxifene, oral dutasteride, liposomal finasteride, Breezula, Pyrilutamide, SM04554, and sulforaphane, but have concerns about efficacy, availability, and cost.

Oral minoxidil is more effective than topical for some users, increasing hair density and thickness. Lack of response to topical minoxidil may be due to insufficient sulfotransferase enzyme, which can be upregulated with tretinoin.

Minoxidil isn't effective for OP, who is exploring latanoprost and bimatoprost for hair growth. Users suggest higher concentrations of latanoprost (0.1%) are needed for effectiveness, but they are costly and hard to find.

A user is interested in creating a hair growth serum using oleic acid, palmitoleic acid, and anhydrous ethanol, and seeks advice on sourcing these ingredients. Another user plans to mix these with minoxidil, which already contains ethanol, and mentions using RU58841.

Breezula® (Clascoterone) showed promising results in a Phase 2 trial for treating hair loss, being as effective as Propecia with no serious side effects. It might be released between 2021-2022, and a related acne treatment with the same active ingredient could be used in the meantime.

A user asked if olive oil can replace propylene glycol or glycerin in topical finasteride preparation. Another user advised against it, suggesting MCT oil instead due to olive oil's potential to worsen dandruff and seborrheic dermatitis.

A user is concerned about hair loss in the temple area despite using Minoxidil and finasteride for 10 months and is curious if PP405 can help. Responses indicate uncertainty about PP405's effectiveness, with some optimism about future treatments and AI speeding up drug discovery, but emphasize waiting for clinical trial results.