Woman uses antiandrogens for hair thinning prevention, experiences severe dry eye with finasteride. Asks if dutasteride could be better despite potential for worse dry eye.
The user diagnosed with DUPA tried treatments like dutasteride, finasteride, RU58841, and minoxidil without success and is considering a hair system. They hope for a future cure, possibly with PP405, and others suggest options like scalp biopsy and SMP.
Dutasteride mesotherapy, combined with peptides and exosomes, is being considered for hair loss treatment. One user suggests that oral finasteride or dutasteride mesotherapy may not be necessary if already taking oral dutasteride.
The conclusion of this conversation is that the user experienced hair regrowth and increased overall hair thickness after using dutasteride and derma pen treatments for 5 years. They did not experience any side effects.
Dutasteride is considered a stronger alternative to finasteride for hair loss, with mixed results; some users report improvement, while others experience worsening or side effects. Effectiveness varies, with genetics and individual responses influencing outcomes.
The user has been using dutasteride, RU58841, and minoxidil for hair loss, experiencing some side effects and mixed results, with RU58841 notably reducing scalp itch. Despite extensive treatment, the user has maintained hair but struggles with hairline thickening.
A user experienced high estrogen levels after 10 months of taking 1mg oral finasteride but is happy with hair regrowth. They are considering switching to topical finasteride and are also taking DIM and Zinc supplements.
A user on finasteride for hair loss is considering topical dutasteride to further reduce scalp DHT and is using various other topicals as substitutes for minoxidil due to concerns about the safety of their cats and potential heart side effects from oral minoxidil. They are exploring whether a once-weekly application of topical dutasteride would be effective.
Dutasteride users should get yearly kidney and liver tests, especially young people. General health checkups are not common in the UK, but such tests are recommended as a precaution.
The user has been on finasteride for 17 months and recently switched to dutasteride, sharing bloodwork results showing no side effects. They express a wish to have started treatment earlier to save their hair.
The conversation discusses the potential effectiveness and risks of using topical finasteride for hair loss, with considerations about using DMSO as a vehicle for application. Concerns are raised about DMSO's safety, absorption issues, and the systemic effects of topical finasteride.
Dutasteride 0.5mg daily led to significant hair regrowth in 3 months, with minimal side effects like slight pelvic pain and increased libido. The user switched from Finasteride to Dutasteride, noticing reduced hair shedding and improved hair condition.
A dermatologist prescribed 0.5 mg dutasteride and 2.5 mg minoxidil for hair thinning, which is considered a solid regimen for regrowth. Users generally agree that dutasteride is more effective than finasteride and support the dermatologist's decision.
FCE 28260 (PNU 156765), an under-explored 5α-reductase inhibitor, showcases promising results in research by Giudici et al., outperforming well-known treatments like Finasteride in reducing the conversion of testosterone to DHT. Its superior efficacy, demonstrated through lower IC50 values in both natural and human recombinant enzyme studies, suggests it could offer more effective management of DHT-related conditions. Additionally, its lower molecular weight hints at better potential for topical application, potentially offering advantages in treating conditions such as androgenic alopecia. Despite its potential, it has not advanced in development, possibly due to financial limitations, leaving its therapeutic prospects and side effect profile largely unexplored.
Taking dutasteride daily at higher doses results in more effective DHT suppression compared to every other day dosing, due to its dose-dependent nature and long half-life. Even at lower doses, dutasteride is more effective than finasteride for hair loss.
The impact of creatine on DHT levels, and whether it could cause accelerated male pattern baldness (MPB). The user taking a 5 alpha reductase inhibitor found that their DHT levels actually reduced despite taking creatine for nine weeks. Replies suggested looking into testosterone levels as well and debating the safety of creatine use in relation to MPB.
The user experienced significant hair thinning despite using finasteride and minoxidil, leading to concerns about whether it's a temporary shed or a more serious issue. They plan to start using RU58841 and are advised to consult a doctor to rule out other causes like autoimmune disorders.
A user experienced no reduction in DHT levels after 8 months of finasteride, despite initial improvement in hair loss. They are considering switching to dutasteride but are concerned about potential side effects.
Dutasteride and finasteride mesotherapy may have fewer side effects like erectile dysfunction and libido loss compared to oral treatments, but it's less effective and more costly. Few people discuss it, and experiences with mesotherapy are limited.
How diffuse unpatterned alopecia (DUPA) is not an invitation to self-diagnose oneself with aggressive AGA and that seeking a specialized dermatologist may help people experiencing hair loss. Treatment options discussed include topical clobetasol propionate, oral minoxidil, and discontinuing finasteride.
Dutasteride is often taken daily despite its long half-life because consistent dosing maintains optimal serum levels for effective DHT suppression. Some users report success with less frequent dosing, such as three times a week, but effectiveness can vary based on individual response and professional advice.
The conversation discusses using very low dose topical finasteride to achieve specific serum DHT reduction percentages. It concludes that finasteride dosage increases linearly between 5-30% DHT reduction but requires exponential increases for reductions up to 70%.
Using PRP or Exosome treatments alongside Finasteride/Dutasteride and Minoxidil may not significantly enhance results. Dutasteride and oral Minoxidil are considered more effective options.
The conversation discusses using GHK Cu + AHK Cu peptides combined with topical dutasteride and minoxidil for hair regrowth. It mentions negative side effects of finasteride and promotes a specific copper peptide serum.
RU58841 slowed hair loss for a DUPA sufferer after other treatments like finasteride, dutasteride, and minoxidil failed. Some users reported side effects with RU58841, while others did not experience any.
Topical finasteride concentrations are likely much higher than necessary for effective follicular DHT suppression, with current standards being 100-1000 times above the theoretical minimum. Lower concentrations (0.001-0.0025%) might still work locally while minimizing systemic exposure.
The user has been using oral minoxidil and dutasteride for hair loss without success and is considering adding topical 17α-estradiol, Pyrilutamide, Clascoterone, or cetirizine. They have confirmed low serum DHT levels and are exploring additional treatments due to genetic sensitivity to DHT and prostaglandin D2.
Dutasteride and finasteride are used for hair loss, affecting hormone levels like DHT and testosterone. Hormone balance is crucial, as changes can lead to side effects such as increased estradiol and potential hair loss.
The user is using a hair recovery treatment with 0.5 mg dutasteride, 5 mg biotin, 5% topical minoxidil, and dermarolling twice a week. They are considering using a 1.5 mm dermaroller and red light therapy.
Dr. Kyle Gillet mentioned on Dr. Andrew Huberman's podcast that dutasteride mesotherapy blocks DHT conversion only in the scalp and is the most promising topical treatment. Users discussed concerns about systemic absorption and the practicality of dutasteride injections.