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Testosterone can still cause hair loss even when DHT is blocked by dutasteride, especially if hair follicles are sensitive. Topical treatments like RU58841 or pyrilutamide may help, but their long-term effectiveness is uncertain compared to dutasteride.

The conversation discusses starting finasteride 1mg daily for hair loss and mentions a high baseline DHT level. Users comment on the unusually high DHT level and its potential causes.

Tretinoin's effectiveness for hair regrowth alone is questioned, with interest in its use with oral minoxidil. The discussion also considers whether finasteride or dutasteride is the better DHT blocker and if switching to dutasteride is advisable for those without side effects from finasteride.

A 19-year-old is experiencing diffuse thinning and has been on finasteride for 6 months, noticing a slower but still concerning rate of hair loss. They started taking 0.5mg of dutasteride once a week in addition to 1.25mg of finasteride on other days and are seeking advice on this treatment approach.

Topical finasteride may reduce more scalp DHT but is seen as inconsistent and messy compared to oral finasteride. Users report mixed results with both forms, with some preferring oral for its convenience and consistent dosing, while others find topical effective but harder to apply.

Finasteride users report reduced libido and increased hair shedding initially, but some see these as temporary or manageable side effects. Vitamin E and D-3 supplements are discussed as potential aids for libido and mood.

A user is discussing their experience with finasteride for diffuse thinning without a receding hairline, noting a massive shedding phase in the fourth month that is now slowing down. Other replies are off-topic and not relevant to the treatment discussion.

A 19-year-old male is experiencing accelerated hair recession after two months on oral Dutasteride, despite no noticeable shedding, while also using topical Minoxidil and Finasteride. He is unsure if the treatment is effective and is unable to access RU58841.

The conversation discusses the role of DHT in male hair loss and the effectiveness of treatments like Finasteride, which reduces DHT, and RU58841, which blocks DHT from binding to scalp receptors. The user debates the trade-offs between maintaining hair and having a healthy endocrine system, suggesting RU58841 might allow for both.

OP noticed an increase in DHT levels after 5 months of using finasteride and is unsure if the drug is effective or if other factors like stress or vitamins are influencing the results. Users suggest testing the medication for authenticity, consulting a doctor, and possibly trying a different brand or dosage.

A 27-year-old male experiencing increased hair loss despite using 0.5mg dutasteride daily, minoxidil nightly, and optimizing vitamin D, is considering zinc supplementation and seeking a dermatology referral. Concerns about potential shedding, thyroid levels, and zinc dosage are discussed, with advice to monitor and avoid over-supplementation.

FCE 28260 (PNU 156765), an under-explored 5α-reductase inhibitor, showcases promising results in research by Giudici et al., outperforming well-known treatments like Finasteride in reducing the conversion of testosterone to DHT. Its superior efficacy, demonstrated through lower IC50 values in both natural and human recombinant enzyme studies, suggests it could offer more effective management of DHT-related conditions. Additionally, its lower molecular weight hints at better potential for topical application, potentially offering advantages in treating conditions such as androgenic alopecia. Despite its potential, it has not advanced in development, possibly due to financial limitations, leaving its therapeutic prospects and side effect profile largely unexplored.

The user is experiencing diffuse hair loss due to high testosterone levels and has tried various treatments including finasteride, minoxidil, nanoxidil, keto/caffeine shampoo, dermarolling, and RU-58841 with limited success. They are seeking advice on safely lowering testosterone levels to manage hair loss.

The conversation discusses the need for a localized 5-alpha reductase inhibitor that only affects the scalp without systemic side effects, similar to pyrilutamide's approach. Current treatments like topical liposomal finasteride and dutasteride are mentioned, but concerns about their systemic effects and lack of research are highlighted.

The conversation discusses the effectiveness of different concentrations and dosages of topical finasteride on scalp and serum DHT levels, comparing it to oral finasteride and noting the side effects seem to be fewer at lower dosages. Participants shared experiences and referenced a chart indicating similar scalp DHT reduction with 0.025% topical finasteride as with 1mg oral finasteride, but with fewer side effects.

Diffuse thinning is often due to androgenetic alopecia, and DHT blockers like finasteride are recommended. Treatments mentioned include minoxidil, finasteride, dutasteride, and RU58841, with emphasis on starting early and using a holistic approach.

The user has been experiencing diffuse hair thinning despite using finasteride, minoxidil, dermarolling, clobetasol cream, and PRP sessions. They seek advice on additional treatments and are advised to check vitamin D, iron, and thyroid levels.

Dutasteride and finasteride are used for hair loss, affecting hormone levels like DHT and testosterone. Hormone balance is crucial, as changes can lead to side effects such as increased estradiol and potential hair loss.

Topical dutasteride may not significantly reduce hair loss and could potentially increase testosterone, leading to further hair loss. Users report side effects like mood changes, sleep issues, and severe side effects, with no significant progress in hair regrowth.

The conversation discusses a hair loss treatment involving oral minoxidil, topical finasteride, and a custom topical formulation with minoxidil, cetirizine, finasteride, progesterone, and hydrocortisone. The user seeks advice on the effectiveness of these ingredients for diffuse thinning.

Using topical finasteride with creatine might help reduce hair loss by targeting local DHT while maintaining normal systemic levels, but results are uncertain without testing. Users report mixed experiences with topical treatments like finasteride, dutasteride, RU58841, and minoxidil, with some seeing regrowth and others experiencing side effects.

The user has been taking 1mg finasteride daily for a year with no improvement in hair loss and reports low cortisol levels, sleep issues, and anxiety changes. The conversation includes discussions on the potential effects of finasteride on cortisol and neurosteroids, with suggestions to consult a doctor and consider other factors.

The user is experiencing hair loss despite using finasteride and dutasteride and is considering adding minoxidil. Suggestions include switching to daily dutasteride and adding a topical anti-androgen.

The conversation discusses using scalp antiandrogens like RU58841, pyrilutamide, or fluridil on the face to reduce sebum production, noting that clascoterone (winlevi) is an approved facial antiandrogen with underwhelming reviews.

The user experienced high estradiol levels after using topical finasteride at 0.1 mg/day, which normalized after discontinuation. They are questioning if this low dosage could significantly impact hormone levels.

The conversation discusses whether finasteride's reduction of DHT and increase in scalp testosterone contribute to hair follicle miniaturization. Some participants argue testosterone does not cause miniaturization, while others suggest that even with reduced DHT, other androgens like testosterone may still contribute to hair loss.

The post discusses the potential of upregulating aromatase to treat hair loss, suggesting that increasing CCL2 levels through Vitamin D or microneedling might help. The user questions why microneedling doesn't work for everyone, especially those with advanced hair loss.

Female with PCOS experiences receding and thinning hair, wants dutasteride instead of spironolactone. Discusses desire to reduce DHT without losing libido.

The user lost ground on oral finasteride and plans to switch to topical finasteride/minoxidil and microneedling. They are curious if topical treatments are more effective than oral ones.

Topical dutasteride is suggested as a low side-effect treatment for hair loss, with a proposed dose of 0.025% 1ml/day. It is considered better than finasteride due to its even inhibition of DHT isoforms and lower systemic absorption.