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The conversation is about when GT20029, a hair loss treatment, might be available on the grey market, with users discussing the challenges of compounding it and speculating it might be available after phase 2 results, similar to pyri. Specific treatments mentioned are pyri, RU58841, and GT20029.

Apple core extract pills, believed to enhance hair density, are discussed as a potential treatment for hair loss. Users express cautious optimism and interest in trying the product, while acknowledging skepticism and the high cost.

RU58841 mixed with Minoxidil seems less effective over time, so the user plans to switch to a PG and Ethanol dilution for better results. They also consider using rosemary oil with Minoxidil to enhance RU58841 absorption.

FOL-005 claims to be more effective than Minoxidil and Finasteride but lacks anti-DHT properties, leading to potential reduced efficacy over time. Concerns are raised about misleading marketing and the safety of alternative treatments like Pyrilutamide and Clascoterone.

Pelage is developing a topical hair follicle stem cell therapy, PP405, for non-scarring alopecias like androgenetic alopecia, with Phase III trials planned and a potential market launch by 2027. The treatment may not require continuous use after initial regrowth.

Isopropyl alcohol should not replace ethanol in homemade topical finasteride serums due to potential toxicity with frequent use. Denatured ethanol, also known as parfum or cosmetic alcohol, is a safer alternative.

Topical spironolactone is discussed as a hair loss treatment, with concerns about its effectiveness and side effects compared to finasteride and minoxidil. Users mention its unpleasant smell, potential systemic absorption, and suggest alternatives like pyrilutamide and alfatradiol.

The conversation is about a user suspecting excessive soy consumption caused their hair loss and considering removing soy from their diet. Another user suggests balancing soy with other nutrients, as soy is generally thought to protect hair.

A 17-year-old is looking for alternatives to finasteride for DHT control to preserve hair, considering ketoconazole shampoo for its potential to inhibit 5AR and also thinking about using caffeine-containing shampoos like alpecin or watermans.

Mixing ketoconazole 2% shampoo with coal tar and salicylic acid for seborrheic dermatitis is discussed, with users sharing experiences and alternative treatments like sulfur soap and scalp massage. Some users report success with these methods, emphasizing the importance of avoiding irritants and maintaining scalp health.

GT20029 is a new hair loss treatment in Phase 3 trials in China, using PROTAC technology to target androgen receptors, potentially with fewer side effects than finasteride and minoxidil. VDPHL01, a second-generation minoxidil, is also mentioned as potentially more effective.

Alternative treatments for hair loss such as Procapil, Redensyl, and Baicapil being compared to Minoxidil, Finasteride, and RU58841.

RU58841 is used topically to prevent hair loss by blocking DHT, with suggestions to drink grapefruit juice, take breaks, avoid microneedling, and use lower concentrations to reduce side effects. Users discuss applying it at night to minimize systemic absorption.

Safflower oil is suggested as an alternative to minoxidil for hair growth, with benefits including scalp conditioning and hair strength enhancement. Studies indicate it may also reverse scalp dermatitis, alopecia, and prevent premature grayness.

The conversation discusses using NAC and quercetin as supplements for hair loss, with some users also mentioning finasteride. NAC is highlighted for its potential benefits, but concerns about its safety and absorption are also raised.

Hair loss discussion includes treatments like hinoki tree oil and procyanidin b2. Experiences and effectiveness of these treatments are shared.

Stem cell and exosome injections for hair loss are discussed, with skepticism about their effectiveness and concerns about using non-genetically related stem cells. Dr. Deyarmin's treatments are mentioned, with some users questioning their legitimacy and others expressing curiosity.

Minoxidil can cause flaky skin, and users suggest using ketoconazole 2% shampoo three times a week and a pH-balanced shampoo on other days to help manage it. Argan oil was considered but may leave hair oily.

A user is seeking a pharmacy to compound a topical solution containing Minoxidil, Finasteride, Alfatradiol, Melatonin, Latanoprost, and either RU58841 or Pyrilutamide. They prefer a professional compounding lab over DIY methods.

N-Acetyl-Cysteine (NAC) is being explored for treating hair loss, but users report mixed results. Some also mention using Quercetin and Resveratrol without significant hair improvement.

Exosomes were used for hair loss treatment, showing results 33 days after the second session. The conversation also mentions Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841 as treatments.

Topical spiro's effectiveness on androgens is discussed. User tried oral DUT, oral Min, keto/nizoral, and RU but experienced worsening hair loss and chest pains. Suggestion given to increase dutasteride and oral minoxidil dosage before considering spironolactone.

PP405 is a potential hair loss treatment, but its safety and effectiveness are uncertain. Users advise caution and suggest waiting for more data before purchasing unverified versions.

A new hair loss lotion by Dr. Brotzu, expected to regrow up to 5 years of lost hair, is set to be released by Fidia Farmaceutici. It claims to work like minoxidil and finasteride without side effects, but skepticism exists due to its classification as a cosmetic product.

The user shared impressive hair growth results after 100 days using finasteride, minoxidil, biotin, and saw palmetto, and plans to get a hair transplant. The conversation includes suggestions for additional treatments like ketoconazole and derma stamping, and discussions about potential side effects of finasteride.

A female user is seeking a DHT blocker without Selenium or Zinc due to hair breakage and is currently using Saw Palmetto, Nature's Bounty Hair, Skin and Nails, Pumpkin seed oil, Dermastamp, and Pura D'or products. She has tried Minoxidil without success and is considering Finasteride but prefers natural options first.

The conversation discusses managing seborrheic dermatitis (sebderm) and male pattern baldness (MPB) with treatments like finasteride, coal tar shampoo, Nizoral, and oral minoxidil. Users suggest dietary changes, regular shampooing, and using antifungal products to control sebderm before considering minoxidil.

Copper peptides are discussed as a potential alternative to minoxidil for treating hair loss. Users share interest and challenges in accessing copper peptides, with some mentioning specific products.

Ecklonia cava is suggested as an alternative to finasteride and dutasteride for hair growth, potentially offering benefits without their side effects. It is promoted for anti-aging, mood enhancement, and cognitive support.

A Stevia patch with Minoxidil showed positive results for hair growth in mice. A user experienced increased hair shedding after using finasteride for 12 months and briefly using minoxidil.