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The conversation discusses the potential of topical rapamycin, metformin, and alpha-ketoglutarate (a-KG) for hair growth, with skepticism expressed about their effectiveness based on personal experience and existing use. It also mentions AICAR, known as cardarine or GW, which is not suitable for long-term use due to cancer risks in animal studies and its similarity to metformin.

The conversation discusses a user's plan to inject NAD+ and GHK-Cu into their scalp to improve hair health, with concerns raised about the risks of infection and necrosis. Alternatives like finasteride, dutasteride, microneedling, oral minoxidil, and scalp massages are suggested.

User asks if HMI 115 hasn't done phase 1 for AGA in humans. Conversation includes treatments Min, Fin, and RU.

Various hair growth treatments were discussed, including microneedling, bimatoprost, setipiprant, stemoxydine, PGE2, CB-03-01, WNT Beta-Catenin upregulators, KY19382, topical estrogen, IGF-1, GH, MK-677, oral castor oil, fisetin, resveratrol, cetrizine, and lactic acid. Users shared experiences and sources for these treatments, with some expressing interest in topical solutions and others noting the lack of FDA approval or scientific evidence for certain options.

New treatments for AGA are emerging, including pyrilutumide, gt0029, scube3, kx-826, and pp405. Verteporfin is mentioned as a promising option.

The user is seeking alternatives to propylene glycol and glycerin for mixing with RU58841 due to allergies and greasiness. Suggestions include reducing glycerin and considering stemoxydine as a solvent.

The conversation discusses using GHK Cu + AHK Cu peptides combined with topical dutasteride and minoxidil for hair regrowth. It mentions negative side effects of finasteride and promotes a specific copper peptide serum.

The GT20029 tincture, a topical androgen receptor degrader, showed significant hair growth and good safety in a China Phase II trial for male androgenetic alopecia (AGA), with the 1% dose twice weekly identified as optimal. The company plans to initiate Phase III trials in China and Phase II in the U.S., and the treatment also shows promise for acne.

Reducing the dose of RU58841 from 25mg to 7.5mg topically helped minimize heart palpitations. Users discussed the cardiac effects of RU58841 and minoxidil, noting that no treatment is completely free of side effects.

Hair loss treatments discussed include Minoxidil, Finasteride, and RU58841. HMI-115, a monoclonal antibody drug, is in phase 1 and 2 trials for different conditions, but its availability on the gray market is unlikely due to high production costs.

The experiences of users who have used RU58841 to treat hair loss, including both positive and negative effects. Some side effects reported include chest pain, joint pain in the hands, tinnitus, and increased heartbeat.

DLQ01, a prostaglandin F2α analog, shows promise for hair growth by directly stimulating PGE2/PGF receptors without needing conversion, and can be combined with minoxidil and retinoids like tretinoin for enhanced effectiveness. Minoxidil's efficacy may be reduced by COX-1 inhibitors, but using prostaglandin analogs like Latanoprost or Bimatoprost can help maintain its effectiveness.

The conversation discusses GT20029, a compound by Kintor Pharma that degrades androgen receptors and is in trials, with potential as a hair loss cure. Another promising treatment mentioned is an antibody that blocks prolactin and has shown positive results in macaques.

Female considering adding topical anti-androgen, seeks advice on RU58841 or pyrilutamid's binding affinity compared to spironolactone.

Rhamnose may promote hair growth and pigmentation, suggesting it as a potential hair loss treatment. The conversation discusses its potential alongside known treatments like Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841.

RU58841 and Minoxidil can cause heart-related side effects like chest pain and heart racing. Pyrilutamide is suggested as a safer alternative, though it's new and costly.

A user started using RU58841 for hair loss and experienced anxiety and physical discomfort. Other users suggested avoiding the treatment due to similar side effects and recommended alternative treatments like pyri.

A user who was part of an ongoing trial for a prolactin blocker and had regrowth, but the progress photos were not shared due to negative reactions from other users. Treatments mentioned include HMI-115, Minoxidil, Finasteride, and RU58841.

The conversation is about finding a solution for scalp inflammation related to AGA, with the user expressing frustration that Minoxidil and Finasteride do not address inflammation. The user has researched glucocorticoids and topical NSAIDs for reducing inflammation and seeks advice from specialists.

The user has been using finasteride for hair loss and is considering adding RU58841. They ask about RU58841's effectiveness, potential heart side effects, duration of action, dosage increase over time, transitioning to GT20029, and where to find the liquid form.

User tried oral finasteride, topical finasteride, topical dutasteride, and RU58841 but experienced side effects. They discuss upcoming treatments like clascoterone, pyrilutamide, gt20029, and KY19382 as potential options.

RU and Pyri block androgen receptors to prevent hair loss but may also hinder hair regrowth since they prevent testosterone, which can stimulate hair growth, from binding to these receptors. The user is questioning if this understanding is correct.

Exploring hair loss treatments beyond DHT, including Minoxidil, pyruvate, Gt20029 targeting androgen receptors, and vasodilators. Other options like Kx826, adenosine signaling, growth factor topicals, and microneedling are also discussed.

Alfatradiol is discussed as a weak 5ARI and estrogen, not as effective as minoxidil, RU58841, or CB-03-01, but a safe alternative for those who can't use finasteride. Users express frustration over the lack of strong FDA-approved topical antiandrogens for hair loss.

People discussed their experiences with anti-androgens for hair loss, mentioning side effects like chest pains with RU58841 and skepticism due to lack of safety data, while considering Fluridil as a potential addition to treatment. Some users expressed reluctance to use these chemicals.

The conversation discusses topical androgen receptor blockers for hair loss, mentioning Clascoterone, Pyrilutamide, GT20029, and RU58841. Ketoconazole's effectiveness and application methods are also debated.

GT20029 is a new hair loss treatment in Phase 3 trials in China, using PROTAC technology to target androgen receptors, potentially with fewer side effects than finasteride and minoxidil. VDPHL01, a second-generation minoxidil, is also mentioned as potentially more effective.

Pyrilutamide and RU58841 are androgen receptor antagonists that block receptors without significantly reducing testosterone or DHT levels. Any indirect effect on androgen levels is likely negligible.

RU58841 and pyrilutamide are being discussed as potential hair loss treatments, with some users reporting side effects. There is interest in these treatments as alternatives to 5ar inhibitors and oral minoxidil due to concerns about safety and side effects.

RU58841 has significantly improved the user's hair loss experience, alongside oral finasteride, dutasteride, 5 mg minoxidil, topical finasteride, dermastamping, and low-level laser therapy. The user is considering increasing their RU58841 dose from 75 mg to 100-150 mg daily.