Hair loss treatments discussed include Minoxidil, Finasteride, and RU58841. HMI-115, a monoclonal antibody drug, is in phase 1 and 2 trials for different conditions, but its availability on the gray market is unlikely due to high production costs.
FCE 28260 (PNU 156765), an under-explored 5α-reductase inhibitor, showcases promising results in research by Giudici et al., outperforming well-known treatments like Finasteride in reducing the conversion of testosterone to DHT. Its superior efficacy, demonstrated through lower IC50 values in both natural and human recombinant enzyme studies, suggests it could offer more effective management of DHT-related conditions. Additionally, its lower molecular weight hints at better potential for topical application, potentially offering advantages in treating conditions such as androgenic alopecia. Despite its potential, it has not advanced in development, possibly due to financial limitations, leaving its therapeutic prospects and side effect profile largely unexplored.
The conversation discusses using GHK Cu + AHK Cu peptides combined with topical dutasteride and minoxidil for hair regrowth. It mentions negative side effects of finasteride and promotes a specific copper peptide serum.
The conversation discusses GT20029, a compound by Kintor Pharma that degrades androgen receptors and is in trials, with potential as a hair loss cure. Another promising treatment mentioned is an antibody that blocks prolactin and has shown positive results in macaques.
The user has been using finasteride for hair loss and is considering adding RU58841. They ask about RU58841's effectiveness, potential heart side effects, duration of action, dosage increase over time, transitioning to GT20029, and where to find the liquid form.
The GT20029 tincture, a topical androgen receptor degrader, showed significant hair growth and good safety in a China Phase II trial for male androgenetic alopecia (AGA), with the 1% dose twice weekly identified as optimal. The company plans to initiate Phase III trials in China and Phase II in the U.S., and the treatment also shows promise for acne.
Rhamnose may promote hair growth and pigmentation, suggesting it as a potential hair loss treatment. The conversation discusses its potential alongside known treatments like Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841.
The user is considering RU58841 and has been using dutasteride since age 17. They are seeking affordable SARD options, mentioning ASC-J9, GT20029, and AH001.
HMI-115, a newly discovered hair loss treatment that could potentially be effective for those with diffuse thinning and telogen effluvium. It is based on prolactin receptor antagonist signaling and has already undergone Phase I trials in women, with potential commercialization by 2027.
RU and Pyri block androgen receptors to prevent hair loss but may also hinder hair regrowth since they prevent testosterone, which can stimulate hair growth, from binding to these receptors. The user is questioning if this understanding is correct.
The conversation discusses the potential of topical rapamycin, metformin, and alpha-ketoglutarate (a-KG) for hair growth, with skepticism expressed about their effectiveness based on personal experience and existing use. It also mentions AICAR, known as cardarine or GW, which is not suitable for long-term use due to cancer risks in animal studies and its similarity to metformin.
A user is asking about the effectiveness and dosage of RU58841 for hair loss, comparing it to Minoxidil and discussing its long-term use alongside Finasteride. They plan to use RU58841 and Finasteride for several years before potentially switching to GT20029.
The conversation is about when GT20029, a hair loss treatment, might be available on the grey market, with users discussing the challenges of compounding it and speculating it might be available after phase 2 results, similar to pyri. Specific treatments mentioned are pyri, RU58841, and GT20029.
GT20029 is a new hair loss treatment in Phase 3 trials in China, using PROTAC technology to target androgen receptors, potentially with fewer side effects than finasteride and minoxidil. VDPHL01, a second-generation minoxidil, is also mentioned as potentially more effective.
RU58841 and pyrilutamide are being discussed as potential hair loss treatments, with some users reporting side effects. There is interest in these treatments as alternatives to 5ar inhibitors and oral minoxidil due to concerns about safety and side effects.
A 23-year-old started using 0.5mg Dutasteride and 2.5mg Minoxidil daily for hair loss and is considering adding RU58841 or GHK-cu. Users suggest waiting a few months before adding anything and mention Koshine's kx-826 as a potentially better alternative to RU58841.
RU58841 has significantly improved the user's hair loss experience, alongside oral finasteride, dutasteride, 5 mg minoxidil, topical finasteride, dermastamping, and low-level laser therapy. The user is considering increasing their RU58841 dose from 75 mg to 100-150 mg daily.
ABS-201, a prolactin receptor blocker, shows promise in reversing hair loss and graying, with early success in macaques. Current treatments like finasteride, minoxidil, and RU58841 are still widely used, but new options like PP405 are eagerly anticipated.
A 51-year-old on TRT plans to use steroids and is concerned about hair loss, considering topical treatments like Hair Rescue with RU58841 and finasteride, along with Nioxin shampoo. They are cautious about using oral DHT blockers due to potential interactions with steroids like Tren and Anavar.
Pyrilutamide is officially available for purchase, and users suggest Fluridil as an alternative topical anti-androgen. Some users report positive results with pyrilutamide from Koshine.
The conversation discusses androgen receptor degraders for hair loss, highlighting their potential advantages over traditional AR blockers like RU58841 and pyrilutamide. Concerns about the safety and cost of these treatments are also mentioned.
RU58841 and Minoxidil can cause heart-related side effects like chest pain and heart racing. Pyrilutamide is suggested as a safer alternative, though it's new and costly.
The conversation is about testing the effectiveness of RU58841 for hair loss, with the user planning to increase their dose to 30 mg per day along with 20 mg of Minoxidil. The test results showed approximately 70 mg/ml, which the user considers a good result.
The user experienced gynecomastia from finasteride, used raloxifene to treat it, and is now taking both without new gyno symptoms but also without hair regrowth. They are seeking others' experiences with this combination and its effects on hair.
A user shared their 9-month progress using RU58841 at 2% daily for hair regrowth, initially starting at 5% but reducing the dose due to early signs of gynecomastia, which has since mostly resolved. They achieved their goal of regrowing hair at the temples and hairline.
The conversation discusses a user experimenting with RU58841 for hair regrowth by ingesting it, which others find concerning. There are mentions of potential side effects and comparisons to other treatments like minoxidil, finasteride, and flutamide.
GHK-Cu is being considered for hair growth, but users report mixed results. Some use it alongside other treatments like 5AR inhibitors, making it hard to determine its effectiveness.
Reducing the dose of RU58841 from 25mg to 7.5mg topically helped minimize heart palpitations. Users discussed the cardiac effects of RU58841 and minoxidil, noting that no treatment is completely free of side effects.
The user has not seen results from various hair loss treatments including finasteride, dutasteride, minoxidil, and others over several years and is considering adding RU58841 and starting hormone replacement therapy. They are also experiencing anxiety and contemplating moving to a more accepting environment for their nonbinary identity.