The conversation discusses the potential of topical rapamycin, metformin, and alpha-ketoglutarate (a-KG) for hair growth, with skepticism expressed about their effectiveness based on personal experience and existing use. It also mentions AICAR, known as cardarine or GW, which is not suitable for long-term use due to cancer risks in animal studies and its similarity to metformin.
Pyrilutamide is officially available for purchase, and users suggest Fluridil as an alternative topical anti-androgen. Some users report positive results with pyrilutamide from Koshine.
RU58841 and pyrilutamide are being discussed as potential hair loss treatments, with some users reporting side effects. There is interest in these treatments as alternatives to 5ar inhibitors and oral minoxidil due to concerns about safety and side effects.
People discussed their experiences with anti-androgens for hair loss, mentioning side effects like chest pains with RU58841 and skepticism due to lack of safety data, while considering Fluridil as a potential addition to treatment. Some users expressed reluctance to use these chemicals.
User tried oral finasteride, topical finasteride, topical dutasteride, and RU58841 but experienced side effects. They discuss upcoming treatments like clascoterone, pyrilutamide, gt20029, and KY19382 as potential options.
The conversation discusses GT20029, a compound by Kintor Pharma that degrades androgen receptors and is in trials, with potential as a hair loss cure. Another promising treatment mentioned is an antibody that blocks prolactin and has shown positive results in macaques.
A user started using RU58841 for hair loss and experienced anxiety and physical discomfort. Other users suggested avoiding the treatment due to similar side effects and recommended alternative treatments like pyri.
Various hair growth treatments were discussed, including microneedling, bimatoprost, setipiprant, stemoxydine, PGE2, CB-03-01, WNT Beta-Catenin upregulators, KY19382, topical estrogen, IGF-1, GH, MK-677, oral castor oil, fisetin, resveratrol, cetrizine, and lactic acid. Users shared experiences and sources for these treatments, with some expressing interest in topical solutions and others noting the lack of FDA approval or scientific evidence for certain options.
DLQ01, a prostaglandin F2α analog, shows promise for hair growth by directly stimulating PGE2/PGF receptors without needing conversion, and can be combined with minoxidil and retinoids like tretinoin for enhanced effectiveness. Minoxidil's efficacy may be reduced by COX-1 inhibitors, but using prostaglandin analogs like Latanoprost or Bimatoprost can help maintain its effectiveness.
RU and Pyri block androgen receptors to prevent hair loss but may also hinder hair regrowth since they prevent testosterone, which can stimulate hair growth, from binding to these receptors. The user is questioning if this understanding is correct.
The conversation is about when GT20029, a hair loss treatment, might be available on the grey market, with users discussing the challenges of compounding it and speculating it might be available after phase 2 results, similar to pyri. Specific treatments mentioned are pyri, RU58841, and GT20029.
A user who was part of an ongoing trial for a prolactin blocker and had regrowth, but the progress photos were not shared due to negative reactions from other users. Treatments mentioned include HMI-115, Minoxidil, Finasteride, and RU58841.
Comparing the effectiveness of RU58841, Pyrilutamide and CB-03-01 as treatments for hair loss, with people discussing different aspects such as binding affinity, time of inhibition, safety data and cost.
Hair loss treatments discussed include Minoxidil, Finasteride, and RU58841. HMI-115, a monoclonal antibody drug, is in phase 1 and 2 trials for different conditions, but its availability on the gray market is unlikely due to high production costs.
Exploring hair loss treatments beyond DHT, including Minoxidil, pyruvate, Gt20029 targeting androgen receptors, and vasodilators. Other options like Kx826, adenosine signaling, growth factor topicals, and microneedling are also discussed.
The GT20029 tincture, a topical androgen receptor degrader, showed significant hair growth and good safety in a China Phase II trial for male androgenetic alopecia (AGA), with the 1% dose twice weekly identified as optimal. The company plans to initiate Phase III trials in China and Phase II in the U.S., and the treatment also shows promise for acne.
The conversation is about the difficulty in obtaining GT20029, a hair loss treatment, due to patent issues and the need to resort to group buys or Chinese labs for acquisition. Specific treatments mentioned include Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841.
The user has been using finasteride for hair loss and is considering adding RU58841. They ask about RU58841's effectiveness, potential heart side effects, duration of action, dosage increase over time, transitioning to GT20029, and where to find the liquid form.
The conversation discusses using a multimodal approach to treat androgenic alopecia, including substances like gamma-linolenic acid, DHA, sulforaphane, melatonin, cetirizine, astaxanthin, fisetin, apigenin, curcumin, limonene, genistein, and berberine. Users also mention using ketoconazole, minoxidil, and low-level laser therapy (LLLT) as part of their hair loss treatment regimens.
Reducing the dose of RU58841 from 25mg to 7.5mg topically helped minimize heart palpitations. Users discussed the cardiac effects of RU58841 and minoxidil, noting that no treatment is completely free of side effects.
RU58841 and Minoxidil can cause heart-related side effects like chest pain and heart racing. Pyrilutamide is suggested as a safer alternative, though it's new and costly.
FCE 28260 (PNU 156765), an under-explored 5α-reductase inhibitor, showcases promising results in research by Giudici et al., outperforming well-known treatments like Finasteride in reducing the conversion of testosterone to DHT. Its superior efficacy, demonstrated through lower IC50 values in both natural and human recombinant enzyme studies, suggests it could offer more effective management of DHT-related conditions. Additionally, its lower molecular weight hints at better potential for topical application, potentially offering advantages in treating conditions such as androgenic alopecia. Despite its potential, it has not advanced in development, possibly due to financial limitations, leaving its therapeutic prospects and side effect profile largely unexplored.
The conversation discusses hair loss treatments, specifically Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841. The user inquires if RENU Biogen is a DHT inhibitor.
The user experienced side effects from spironolactone and is seeking alternatives for androgenetic alopecia (AGA), considering saw palmetto but unsure of its effectiveness. They are also exploring the possibility of using topical spironolactone, despite availability challenges.
The conversation is about using pyrilutamide and RU58841 as topical solutions to prevent hair loss. Pyrilutamide is considered safer but less potent than RU58841, which some users find effective despite potential side effects like heart palpitations.
The conversation is about finding a solution for scalp inflammation related to AGA, with the user expressing frustration that Minoxidil and Finasteride do not address inflammation. The user has researched glucocorticoids and topical NSAIDs for reducing inflammation and seeks advice from specialists.
RU58841 is a strong non-steroidal antiandrogen for hair loss but may cause cardiovascular issues in some users. Alternatives like Pyrilutamide and Breezula are suggested due to better safety profiles and lower systemic risks.
The user is seeking alternatives to propylene glycol and glycerin for mixing with RU58841 due to allergies and greasiness. Suggestions include reducing glycerin and considering stemoxydine as a solvent.
Pyrilutamide and RU58841 are androgen receptor antagonists that block receptors without significantly reducing testosterone or DHT levels. Any indirect effect on androgen levels is likely negligible.