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The conversation is about using finasteride and testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for hair loss and their role in gender-affirming care. It debates whether these treatments are considered hormone replacement therapy (HRT) and their implications for both cisgender and transgender individuals.

RU and Pyri block androgen receptors to prevent hair loss but may also hinder hair regrowth since they prevent testosterone, which can stimulate hair growth, from binding to these receptors. The user is questioning if this understanding is correct.

The user experienced significant hair shedding after long-term use of finasteride and dutasteride and is now considering trying RU58841 as a last resort. They have checked health factors and suspect stress and poor sleep may contribute to the shedding, but they are determined to try RU58841 to see if it helps with androgenetic alopecia.

The user experienced gynecomastia from finasteride, used raloxifene to treat it, and is now taking both without new gyno symptoms but also without hair regrowth. They are seeking others' experiences with this combination and its effects on hair.

The conversation discusses the delay in the release of a new hair loss treatment, Pyrilutamide, and speculates on potential safety concerns as a reason for the delay. It also mentions GT20029 as another future treatment option, with a release at least five years away, and touches on the avoidance of research chemicals due to uncertainty about their authenticity.

GT20029 shows promise as a topical treatment for hair loss, potentially replacing finasteride for some due to its low systemic exposure and ability to degrade androgen receptors. However, skepticism remains about its long-term efficacy and availability, with some users expressing doubt about new treatments consistently failing to reach the market.

A user is asking about the effectiveness and dosage of RU58841 for hair loss, comparing it to Minoxidil and discussing its long-term use alongside Finasteride. They plan to use RU58841 and Finasteride for several years before potentially switching to GT20029.

The conversation discusses the approval of Kintor Pharmaceutical's AR-PROTAC (GT20029) for clinical trials in China for acne and androgenic alopecia. One user expresses optimism about new treatments being developed and seeks clarification on how the new drug works, specifically if it temporarily degrades the AR protein to reduce DHT sensitivity in hair follicles.

A transgender individual began MTF HRT with estradiol and spironolactone at 39 and is monitoring hair regrowth before starting minoxidil. They are hopeful about not needing wigs permanently.

The conversation discusses androgen receptor degraders for hair loss, highlighting their potential advantages over traditional AR blockers like RU58841 and pyrilutamide. Concerns about the safety and cost of these treatments are also mentioned.

A transgender woman experienced significant hair regrowth after 18 months of hormone replacement therapy (HRT) with estrogen and bicalutamide. The discussion notes HRT's effectiveness for hair regrowth but warns against its use for cisgender men due to feminizing effects.

Using Pyrilutamide or RU as monotherapy for hair loss? Share experiences.

The user experienced side effects from spironolactone and is seeking alternatives for androgenetic alopecia (AGA), considering saw palmetto but unsure of its effectiveness. They are also exploring the possibility of using topical spironolactone, despite availability challenges.

Users discuss using pyrilutamide for hair loss, seeking alternatives to 5AR inhibitors. They mention using minoxidil, ketoconazole shampoo, and RU58841.

The conversation discusses using estradiol mesotherapy to replicate hormone replacement therapy results while minimizing systemic exposure. It also covers the use of Spironolactone cream, which reportedly has no systemic side effects, and the potential risks of using bicalutamide and Spironolactone in men.

Pyrilutamide, a new hair loss product with the potential to be more effective than RU58841 and safer than CB, but expensive.

RU58841 is used without finasteride by some due to side effects, with mixed results. Users report combining RU58841 with minoxidil and adjusting finasteride doses to manage hair loss.

The user shared their hair regrowth journey using treatments like dutasteride, minoxidil, microneedling, tretinoin, Nizoral, silica, biotin, and hormone replacement therapy (HRT) with cyproterone and estradiol. They reported substantial hairline improvement and some crown thinning, with hopes for further progress.

FOL-005 claims to be more effective than Minoxidil and Finasteride but lacks anti-DHT properties, leading to potential reduced efficacy over time. Concerns are raised about misleading marketing and the safety of alternative treatments like Pyrilutamide and Clascoterone.

The conversation discusses adding either RU58841 or pyrilutamide to a hair loss treatment regimen that already includes oral dutasteride and oral minoxidil. RU58841 is considered the stronger anti-androgen but may have more side effects.

Pyrilutamide is considered by some as an alternative for those avoiding 5AR inhibitors like finasteride and dutasteride, but opinions on its effectiveness vary. Some users report similar results with fluridil and pyrilutamide, while others find pyrilutamide less effective compared to prescription treatments.

The conversation is about the potential impact of RU58841 on male fertility, specifically regarding sperm concentration, total count, and motility. The user is curious about the likelihood of RU58841 reducing fertility based on its mechanism of action and comparisons to similar substances.

Exploring different treatments for hair loss, such as cosmeRNA and HMI-115 which are small interference messenger RNA that inhibits the DHT receptor and an antibody that binds to the prolactin (PRL) receptor respectively; and researching mechanism and environment of hyperresponders.

Kintor Pharma finished enrolling and dosing participants in a Phase I trial for a hair loss treatment called AR-PROTAC (GT20029). The effectiveness of another drug, pyrilutamide (KX-826), for hair loss will be clearer after a Phase 2 trial expected to complete in January 2023.

GT20029 is a topical treatment that degrades androgen receptors to prevent hair thinning and loss, potentially offering fewer side effects than systemic treatments like finasteride. Concerns include its impact on hair texture and potential systemic effects, with market availability speculated in 3 to 5 years.

A user plans to undergo a temporary MtF transformation to regrow hair, using estrogen, RU58841, and Dutasteride, then revert with testosterone. Many users criticize the plan, suggesting alternatives like hair transplants, and emphasize that estrogen is not a reliable solution for hair regrowth.

OP is considering Bicalutamide for female AGA and TE but is concerned about its side effects and effectiveness compared to Finasteride. OP is also using Minoxidil and Spironolactone but is experiencing significant shedding and is unsure if it's androgen-driven or due to Minoxidil changes.

The user has been using finasteride and minoxidil for hair loss but experienced worsening temple recession. They suspect they might be more sensitive to testosterone and are considering trying RU58841 or CB 03 01 as additional treatments.

The conversation is about managing allopregnanolone deficiency caused by 5-alpha-reductase inhibitors like finasteride or dutasteride. Specific treatments discussed for hair loss include Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841.

The user has been using Pyrilutamide (Pyril) for hair loss for a month alongside finasteride/dutasteride since 2021 but hasn't seen results. They are considering switching to RU58841 due to its many success stories, despite being skeptical about the legitimacy and testing of Pyrilutamide.