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RU58841 showed promise for treating androgenic alopecia but research was halted due to financial and organizational changes. There were no significant safety concerns reported in human trials.

Pumpkin Seed Oil and Perilla Oil (with alpha-lipoic acid, linoleic acid, and oleic acid) are discussed as potential 5alpha-reductase inhibitors. The conversation focuses on their effectiveness for hair loss treatment.

The conversation discusses the potential for developing a biologic "DHT sponge" to neutralize DHT in the bloodstream as a treatment for hair loss, suggesting it could be more targeted and have fewer side effects than current treatments like finasteride and dutasteride. Concerns include the complexity, cost, and potential side effects of such a treatment, as well as skepticism about its feasibility and market interest.

A compound called MTP3 from the Monoterpene family was found to be safe and highly effective at treating hair loss by inhibiting the FGF5 gene, but its identity is undisclosed for commercial reasons. No specific treatments like Minoxidil, finasteride, or RU58841 were discussed.

The user is considering switching from topical finasteride to RU58841 or KX826 due to side effects like low libido and ED. They are also using oral minoxidil and considering low-dose saw palmetto to maintain their hairline.

RU58841 is effective when used once daily. Using it twice daily may require reducing the dosage, potentially decreasing its effectiveness.

The conversation discusses a clinical trial for Setipiprant in the US, starting June 29th, with eligibility excluding recent users of minoxidil or finasteride. It encourages informed decision-making before signing up.

Kintor Pharmaceutical's Phase 2 results with the drug Pyrilutamide, a potential alternative to 5-ARI drugs like Finasteride and Dutasteride but without the side effects. It could be used in combination with other topical treatments such as Minoxidil. The safety of the drug has been demonstrated in 6 months of use, however there are still questions about long term efficacy and systemic absorption.

The conversation discusses verteporfin as a potential hair loss treatment and questions why more precise methods aren't used to test its effectiveness in regrowing hair. Some users believe verteporfin is promising and should receive more attention, while others are skeptical about the testing methods.

Pyrilutamide's systemic degradation is unclear, unlike fluridil, which becomes inactive in the body. The discussion focuses on whether pyrilutamide shares this property.

Hmi115, a prolactin receptor blocker, showed promise for hair growth, but results from Phase 2 trials have not been published. ABS-201, an AI-based analog, is expected to begin trials in December 2025, while commercialization of treatments like PP-405 is anticipated around 2027.

The conversation discusses using Actifolic tretinoin to enhance the absorption of Minoxidil for hair loss treatment. It questions the amount of tretinoin to use and whether to apply it before or after Minoxidil.

RU and Pyri block androgen receptors to prevent hair loss but may also hinder hair regrowth since they prevent testosterone, which can stimulate hair growth, from binding to these receptors. The user is questioning if this understanding is correct.

Hair loss treatments that avoid significantly lowering systemic DHT levels, focusing on topical options like dutasteride mesotherapy, minoxidil, and ketoconazole. The user is exploring alternatives like KX-826 and RU58841 due to concerns about hormone levels.

A treatment containing Wnt and Follistatin was found to be safe and effective for hair regrowth in a Phase 1 clinical trial. Specific treatments discussed include Minoxidil, Finasteride, and RU58841.

The conversation is about the interest in testing verteporfin, potentially with a dermaroller, for hair loss treatment. There is frustration over the lack of group buys for promising treatments compared to past efforts with less evidence.

Veradermics' phase 2 trial of slow-release oral minoxidil shows promising hair regrowth with minimized side effects, gaining significant attention and funding. PP405 is also noted for its potential as a side-effect-free alternative.

Theaflavin, a black tea extract, may inhibit DHT and androgen receptor activity, but its effectiveness for hair loss is debated. Users report no significant improvement with theaflavin, while some find beta sitosterol helpful.

Concerns about the long-term safety of VDPHL01, an extended-release minoxidil, due to potential risks similar to Cantu syndrome, were raised, highlighting the lack of monitoring for chronic connective tissue changes. The conversation suggests that while the treatment may improve hair growth, it could lead to issues not detected in short-term trials.

Dutasteride is a stronger 5AR inhibitor than finasteride and can significantly lower DHT levels. Reduced doses of dutasteride may lower side effects.

The conversation discusses the potential of a new hair loss treatment, GT20029, which targets androgen receptors in the scalp and is in phase 1 trials in China. Users express hope that this treatment will be more effective than current options like Minoxidil and Finasteride.

Hair loss discussion includes treatments like hinoki tree oil and procyanidin b2. Experiences and effectiveness of these treatments are shared.

Dr. Toyos is recruiting more participants for a larger trial on hair loss treatments. The discussion mentions Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841 as potential treatments.

Topical finasteride can effectively reduce scalp DHT by targeting local enzymes, despite less systemic impact compared to oral forms. Combining oral dutasteride with topical finasteride and minoxidil may enhance hair loss prevention, though evidence of its effectiveness is limited.

Dutasteride significantly reduces DHT levels in hair follicles, potentially more effectively than previously thought. The discussion highlights differences in DHT measurements and the impact on hair loss treatment.