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User discusses group buy for finerenone, a third-gen mineralocorticoid antagonist for hair loss treatment. Finerenone inhibits TGFb, NOX, and ROS, and improves renal and cardiac function; topical dose should be no more than 10mg per day.

Hair loss treatments are advancing, with Coegin Pharma's FOL005 expected this year and Breezula potentially later. Pyrilutamide is available but not very effective, while Kintor's products face skepticism; traditional treatments like finasteride and minoxidil remain dominant.

The conversation is about trying DS Labs SOD supplements for hair loss, which contain ingredients like Genistein, B-sitosterol, and Biotin. The user is considering adding these supplements to their existing hair care routine.

The user experienced side effects from spironolactone and is seeking alternatives for androgenetic alopecia (AGA), considering saw palmetto but unsure of its effectiveness. They are also exploring the possibility of using topical spironolactone, despite availability challenges.

Clascoterone in Winlevi, a topical AR antagonist, is being re-examined due to concerns about HPA axis suppression in adolescents, but it's unlikely to be banned for adult use in androgenetic alopecia (AGA). The European Medicines Agency recommended refusing Winlevi for acne vulgaris, but this may not affect Breezula's approval for AGA.

A combination of pyrilutamide, minoxidil, and alfatradiol is proposed as an effective alternative to finasteride for treating mild to moderate hair loss, claiming to stabilize hair loss and improve thickness without finasteride's side effects. Some users are skeptical about the effectiveness and approval of these treatments, while others are interested in trying them due to finasteride's side effects.

The conversation discusses alternative hair growth treatments to minoxidil, including Stemoxydine, Tretinoin, adenosine, Baicalin, castor oil, Latanoprost/bimatoprost, and Redensyl. Users share their experiences and opinions on the efficacy of these treatments.

User Solid_Repeat5382 shared their experience with Pyrilutamide for hair loss, which initially reduced shedding but later lost effectiveness. They plan to switch back to RU58841 and finasteride, while continuing minoxidil and dermapen treatments.

PP405 is a safer alternative to JXL069 for hair loss treatment because it penetrates the skin effectively and degrades in the blood, avoiding systemic toxicity. JXL069, when forced into the body, can cause dangerous side effects like lactic acidosis due to its inability to degrade safely.

Hair loss treatments, with users discussing their experiences with both RU58841 and Pyrilutamide, noting that the latter has only recently become available but may yield better results in the long term.

RU-58642 is a powerful anti-androgen that was not developed further, possibly due to safety concerns or financial reasons. RU58841 is a topical alternative, but it is less effective than finasteride and dutasteride, and its long-term effects are not well-studied.

RU58841 and Minoxidil can cause heart-related side effects like chest pain and heart racing. Pyrilutamide is suggested as a safer alternative, though it's new and costly.

Minoxidil may age skin by slowing collagen synthesis, but using collagen peptides and a basic skincare routine might counteract this. Foam minoxidil could reduce systemic absorption and avoid alcohol-related side effects.

The user wants to mix 0.2 ml of RU58841 solution with 2 ml of Alfatradiol to use 10 mg of RU58841 daily due to concerns about side effects. They are asking if this combination would be effective for hair loss treatment.

Pyrilutamide's mainstream product release date is discussed. Side effects found in studies are also questioned.

The conversation discusses using RU58841 mixed with topical minoxidil for hair loss, noting its chemical instability and storage challenges. A user shares their experience using RU58841 with ethanol and propylene glycol, mentioning no significant results yet.

Hair loss discussion includes treatments like hinoki tree oil and procyanidin b2. Experiences and effectiveness of these treatments are shared.

The discussion is about a hair loss drug called pyrilutamide. Users discuss its efficacy, safety, and expected market release around 2025-2026, with some expressing concerns about the authenticity of current market offerings.

The conversation discusses skepticism about the effectiveness and formulation of a $10 RU58841 gel from a Korean brand, questioning if ethanol is used to hold the active compounds. Concerns are raised about the feasibility of selling it at such a low price.

Pyrilutamide, a drug in phase 3 trials in China, potentially becoming available in late 2023 or early 2024; Finasteride being used as a current treatment for hair loss; and the possibility of joining a group buy for black market versions of Pyrilutamide.

HMI 115 is being discussed as a potential hair loss treatment, with skepticism due to past disappointments like cosmeRNA, brezula, and pyrilutamide. The user is questioning if they should be hopeful for new developments in the next six years.

Rotenone, a natural plant extract, may promote hair growth by increasing LDH activity and blocking MPC in the scalp, but it carries risks due to its toxicity. The suggested formulation includes Barbasco extract, DMSO, propylene glycol or PEG-400, ethanol, and a carrier oil.

User on fin, minox, and ketoconazole seeks to add another topical anti-androgen. Hierarchy of effectiveness: 1. RU55841, 2. Fluridil - Eucapil, 3. CB-03-01 - Breezula, 4. Ketoconazole; alfatradiol suggested as addition.

The conversation is about the quality of RU58841 powder from Shaanxi Laon Biotech. The user is inquiring if anyone has experience with this product.

The conversation is about choosing an anti-androgen for hair loss treatment, with options being alfatradiol and pyrilutamide. Alfatradiol is considered a better choice due to its established use, while pyrilutamide is more experimental.

Breezula's phase 3 results are expected soon, with discussions on the effectiveness of androgen receptor antagonists like spironolactone and the potential of GT20029. Users express skepticism about new treatments and discuss the complexities of male pattern baldness, often relying on finasteride despite its side effects.

Pyrilutamide's long-term stability is uncertain, with potential degradation after 8-9 months if not stored properly. It's recommended to use fresh batches and store them in a cool, dark place.

Kintor is producing a cosmetic with KX826, starting at 0.5% concentration and moving to 1%. The 0.5% concentration wasn't as effective as minoxidil and finasteride, but the 1% concentration shows promise.

User considers trying Pyrilutamide for hair loss and itch relief. Another user shares positive experience with Pyrilutamide, no side effects.

The conversation is about the delay in Breezula's phase 3 trials and skepticism regarding its effectiveness compared to other treatments like RU58841 and Pyrilutamide. Some users prefer safety over effectiveness, while others express frustration with the slow progress and doubt Breezula will be a significant treatment for hair loss.