A 21-year-old with diffuse thinning hair is considering RU58841 due to side effects from topical finasteride and is asking for the lowest effective dose and time to see results from RU58841 users.
RU58841 powder from a lab supplier was tested at a free drug testing service. The discussion includes using Minoxidil and finasteride for hair loss treatment.
The conversation discusses the potential release of Winlevi in 2019 by Cassiopeia for hair loss treatment. It suggests a regimen combining minoxidil, Winlevi, Nizoral, and possibly dermarolling, with a comment mentioning Breezula as an alternative to finasteride without side effects.
Bovine colostrum is being discussed for its potential in hair regeneration, with some users noting that oral consumption may not be effective due to stomach acid destroying exosomes. The conversation also touches on ethical concerns about sourcing colostrum.
A user with high pre-finasteride estrogen levels is asking if they need to normalize their hormone levels before starting finasteride and whether they should postpone dermarolling until they begin finasteride. The user is 21.5 years old.
The user has tried many hair loss treatments including dutasteride, oral and topical minoxidil, topical finasteride, PRP, and microneedling without much success and is now using RU58841, seeing initial vellus hair growth but no further improvement after 5 months. They are inquiring about the effectiveness of RU58841 after 6-12 months of use.
The conversation discusses skepticism about the effectiveness and formulation of a $10 RU58841 gel from a Korean brand, questioning if ethanol is used to hold the active compounds. Concerns are raised about the feasibility of selling it at such a low price.
Using finasteride and peptides, including GHK-Cu, improved hair thickness and regrowth. The user also used a KLOW blend and CJC/IPA for better sleep and recovery.
The conversation discusses the delay in bringing FAK inhibitors and Stanford's hydrogel to market for hair transplants, with a preference for FAK inhibitors over Verteporfin due to their superior potential in preventing scarring. The user expresses frustration over the slow progress and hopes for faster development by companies like FAKnostics.
A new hair loss treatment, KX-826, is being discussed as a stronger and safer alternative to RU58841 and finasteride. Opinions are mixed, with some users skeptical about its effectiveness and others considering it as part of their regimen.
Probiotics like L. reuteri ATCC PTA 6475 and B. longum BB536 may improve hair growth and density by reducing inflammation and reversing DHT damage. The user is trialing these probiotics personally, ordering them from the U.S. to Canada, and plans to continue if no adverse effects occur.
Controlling insulin levels through intermittent fasting and a low glycemic diet may improve hair quality by reducing androgens. It's important to maintain proper nutrition, including electrolytes and protein, during fasting.
KX826 is considered a legitimate option for those who cannot use finasteride or dutasteride, but many users report it as ineffective compared to RU58841. RU58841 is favored by some due to anecdotal evidence of effectiveness, despite the lack of published clinical data.
Hmi115, a prolactin receptor blocker, showed promise for hair growth, but results from Phase 2 trials have not been published. ABS-201, an AI-based analog, is expected to begin trials in December 2025, while commercialization of treatments like PP-405 is anticipated around 2027.
Replicel's results were delayed, but Shiseido might share data at BioJapan on October 11. Users are hopeful for new treatments like RCH-01, potentially eliminating the need for finasteride or minoxidil.
Hair loss discussion includes LLLT treatments and a satirical condition called PLLLTS, causing patients to resemble lighthouses and attract moths. Some users express concern about others taking the satire seriously.
The relative strength of Pyrilutamide compared to RU58841 in terms of androgen receptor binding affinity. It has been noted that Pyrilutamide is 4x stronger than RU58841, with a higher binding affinity than DHT itself.
RU58841 from Amazon is unreliable, with users reporting no benefits and side effects like eye swelling and chest pain. Rudirect is recommended for purchasing in Europe.
A 21-year-old experiencing itchy and burning scalp with hair loss was diagnosed with MPB and scalp inflammation. They were prescribed Ketoconazole, Prednisone, Clindamycin, and Finasteride, and are considering trying antihistamines, dietary changes, and "nopoo" to alleviate symptoms.
RU58841, an anti-androgenic compound, showed early promise for treating alopecia but faced challenges after its patent in 1997. Despite advancing to Phase II trials, safety concerns and financial struggles led Aventis to abandon its development. Proskelia, which later merged into ProStrakan, couldn't prioritize the drug, leading to its eventual stagnation and failure to reach the market.
The user experienced side effects from RU58841, including dry eyes and potential eyesight issues, and decided to stop using it. They confirmed the product's legitimacy but advised caution due to its experimental status and lack of safety data.
Chinese company gets green light for Pyrilutamide Phase II trial for androgenetic alopecia. Androgen receptors downregulate in androgen deficient environments.
Prostaglandin balance affects hair loss, particularly in conditions like Lichen Planopilaris, where an imbalance can lead to hair follicle damage. Treatments mentioned include prostaglandin analogs and Pioglitazone HCL, with a focus on maintaining prostaglandin equilibrium for potential hair regrowth.
The conversation discusses a user experimenting with RU58841 for hair regrowth by ingesting it, which others find concerning. There are mentions of potential side effects and comparisons to other treatments like minoxidil, finasteride, and flutamide.
A user is testing clascoterone (Winlevi) on their scalp for hair loss and has noticed a reduction in scalp sebum after one month. They are also using other unspecified treatments and plan to provide an update after the second month.
The user is experiencing diffuse thinning and inflammation despite using 2.5mg dutasteride daily, ciclopirox, and ketoconazole shampoos. They are considering treatments like hydroxychloroquine and JAK inhibitors due to suspected scarring alopecia and have faced challenges in obtaining a scalp biopsy.
The user added P5P (vitamin B6) to their shampoo to reduce scalp itch, which improved significantly. They have been using finasteride for hair loss but are exploring additional treatments like topical antiandrogens and prolactin inhibitors.
The conversation discusses treatments for scalp inflammation, suggesting options like scalp massage, changing shampoos, using aloe vera, Tgel, nizoral shampoo, topical cetirizine, and consulting a dermatologist. Finasteride was mentioned as helpful for reducing inflammation, but with side effects.
Increased scalp itching during shedding phases while on finasteride treatment may coincide with hair regrowth and recovery. This suggests that itching might not always indicate continued hair loss and could encourage persistence with the treatment.