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The conversation is about a user experiencing hair shedding after using a brand of RU58841, questioning its effectiveness and safety. Concerns are raised about RU58841 being an abandoned research chemical and the use of heavy oils like castor and argan oil potentially affecting absorption.

The conversation discusses switching from finasteride to dutasteride due to side effects, with some users experiencing fewer side effects on dutasteride. It also mentions using liposomal topical finasteride and ketoconazole shampoo as alternative treatments.

Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841 are discussed as hair loss treatments. Users express skepticism about certain products, with some preferring simpler options like caffeine-based products.

The conversation discusses two methods for making topical finasteride: using ethanol and propylene glycol or mixing it with topical minoxidil. The focus is on solubility and absorption, with a suggestion to crush pills finely and possibly mix with minoxidil at a slightly elevated temperature.

Hair loss discussion includes treatments like hinoki tree oil and procyanidin b2. Experiences and effectiveness of these treatments are shared.

A user has been using finasteride and minoxidil for hair loss without success and is considering switching to dutasteride. They are concerned about low DHT levels and are seeking advice on how to implement dutasteride effectively.

A user is considering a hair loss treatment lotion containing minoxidil, adenosine, caffeine, melatonin, and azelaic acid, questioning the interaction between caffeine and adenosine receptors. Another user suggests adding a topical anti-DHT ingredient like spironolactone, noting it should not be taken orally by men.

The user is exploring hair loss treatments in China, currently using finasteride and minoxidil, and is concerned about seborrheic dermatitis. Clinics are recommending selenium sulfide, doxycycline, and mesotherapy ampoules like PT88/PT66 or SP88/SP66, but the user is unsure about their effectiveness.

Discussing and researching different treatments for hair loss, including RU58841, Dutasteride, Spironolactone, Retin-A, Stemoxydine (Neogenic), Copper peptides, Superoxide Dismutase, NANO, and Eucapil.

The conversation discusses the sourcing of Pyril by major retailers like Minoxidil Max, RU Direct, and Actifolic. It involves treatments such as Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841 for hair loss.

The conversation discusses GT20029, a new topical drug for hair loss and acne without notable side effects, which has been accepted for investigational use in China. Some users express skepticism about the legitimacy of the company and the potential for other drugs like RU58841 to be developed due to patent expiration and lack of profitability.

Dr. Reddy's Mintop Yuva 5 Minoxidil uses benzyl alcohol instead of ethyl alcohol or propylene glycol. The user is inquiring if this formulation causes dandruff or skin peeling and if its efficacy is affected.

A user asked if olive oil can replace propylene glycol or glycerin in topical finasteride preparation. Another user advised against it, suggesting MCT oil instead due to olive oil's potential to worsen dandruff and seborrheic dermatitis.

A user seeks advice on mixing RU58841 serum using European ingredients, specifically struggling to find propylene glycol. They are looking for alternatives to American products commonly recommended in guides.

RU-58642 is a powerful anti-androgen that was not developed further, possibly due to safety concerns or financial reasons. RU58841 is a topical alternative, but it is less effective than finasteride and dutasteride, and its long-term effects are not well-studied.

Nanoxidil is considered by some as a substitute for Minoxidil, but users report it as ineffective and expensive. Finasteride is recommended as a more effective treatment, often used with Minoxidil, microneedling, and ketoconazole.

RU58841 is more effective when mixed with isopropyl alcohol instead of minoxidil, as water in minoxidil degrades RU58841. Applying RU58841 separately from minoxidil, with an hour gap, enhances hair growth results.

Dutasteride significantly reduces DHT levels, potentially more effectively than finasteride, and is used to treat hair loss. Some users report side effects like reduced libido and mood changes, while others experience hair regrowth and increased testosterone.

Using essential oil roller bottles makes applying minoxidil easier and more convenient. Oral minoxidil has potential side effects, including heart issues, while topical application is considered safer.

The user started a hair care routine using 0.5mg finasteride daily, 2ml of 5% minoxidil, and 4.5mg of cetirizine topically to address hair loss. They plan to provide updates and are also interested in cetirizine's potential to reduce scalp itching and redness due to its anti-inflammatory properties.

Diluting finasteride in a Hims spray can be done using ethanol or propylene glycol to maintain the desired concentration without increasing minoxidil levels. This approach ensures the finasteride concentration is reduced to 0.025% without affecting the minoxidil strength.

Minoxidilmax offering a 0.5% Pyrilutamide solution and debating the cost, effectiveness, and safety of using it alone or with other treatments such as Finasteride and Minoxidil.

The user switched to oral Dutasteride, added RU58841, and used Ketoconazole-enriched Minoxidil but still experiences scalp itch and hair loss after 4 months. They are advised to give Dutasteride more time, consider seeing a dermatologist, and explore other topical solutions.

Topical finasteride in a liposomal formulation reduces systemic absorption compared to ethanol solutions. The user is seeking sources for such products, noting that popular options like morr-f are not liposomal.

Pyrilutamide's effect on sebum production and scalp inflammation is unclear, with users noting no significant changes. Isotretinoin is mentioned as effective for reducing sebum, while Dutasteride and various shampoos have limited impact on oiliness and seborrheic dermatitis.

Mixing charcoal, Ketoconazole, and caffeinated shampoo is questioned for potential interaction, specifically if charcoal inactivates other ingredients. Charcoal is used for seborrheic dermatitis, while caffeine is thought to improve scalp blood flow.

The user is using Finasteride gel and considering adding Redensyl to their routine, along with weekly microneedling, but is hesitant to use Minoxidil due to its initial shedding phase. They seek advice on the safety and ideal routine for combining these treatments.

The conversation discusses hair loss treatments, including dutasteride, oral minoxidil, finasteride, and potential additions like topical finasteride, minoxidil, micro-needling, and topical anti-androgens such as RU58841. The effectiveness and worth of these treatments, including localized dutasteride mesotherapy, are considered.

The conversation discusses the uncertainty of the legitimacy of minoxidil products in the EU market and mentions baricitinib as an approved, but expensive alternative. A method to test for real minoxidil involves mixing it with bleach to see if it turns orange or brown.

The user is using oral dutasteride, oral minoxidil, topical minoxidil, finasteride solution, tazarotene, calcipotriol, and a peptide serum for hair loss but is concerned about continued hair shedding. They are advised to stop smoking as it may worsen hair loss and to give the treatments more time to work.