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Natural vitamins like pumpkin seed oil, saw palmetto, and ecklonia cava are discussed for their potential to lower DHT levels. They may work similarly to finasteride but are significantly weaker.

Thicair is a product combining microneedling and subdural vitamins for hair loss, containing ingredients like Panax Ginseng Root Extract and Copper Tripeptide-1. Users are skeptical, with one calling it "quackery."

Creatine does not significantly affect hair loss when taking finasteride. Some users report no change, while others believe it may accelerate hair loss if predisposed to male pattern baldness.

The conversation discusses hair loss linked to BDNF-increasing nootropics like Semax and Lions Mane. Suggested topical treatments include capsaicin, beta-glucan, and ginseng to counteract TGF-B activation.

Finasteride may affect liver function and cortisol levels, potentially linking it to non-alcoholic fatty liver disease (NAFLD). More research is needed to understand this connection fully.

Carpronium chloride 5% is a hair growth treatment in Japan, considered less effective than minoxidil or finasteride. Some users report moderate success with it, but its efficacy is not well-verified.

Collagen, chondroitin sulfate, hyaluronic acid, and MSM are used to improve hair appearance, making it fuller, thicker, and shinier. The user noticed significant hair improvement after resuming these supplements.

The conversation discusses a new product from Actifolic, which combines RU58841 and GHK-CU for hair loss treatment. The participants are considering whether it's worth trying.

The conversation discusses the potential of cinnamic acid for hair growth. It also mentions treatments like Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841.

Creatine does not cause hair loss, but it may accelerate it in those predisposed to male pattern baldness. The study suggests that creatine does not affect DHT or hair loss, but individual reactions may vary.