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The conversation discusses alternatives to 5AR inhibitors for hair loss treatment, suggesting options like minoxidil, KX-826, pyrilutimide, microneedling, and topical bicalutamide. Concerns about side effects and the effectiveness of these treatments are also highlighted.

The conversation discusses the approval of Kintor Pharmaceutical's AR-PROTAC (GT20029) for clinical trials in China for acne and androgenic alopecia. One user expresses optimism about new treatments being developed and seeks clarification on how the new drug works, specifically if it temporarily degrades the AR protein to reduce DHT sensitivity in hair follicles.

A 27-year-old male with Norwood grade 5 hair loss is using dutasteride and a hair serum with Redensyl, Anagain, Procapil, and Capilia Longa, but is hesitant to use oral minoxidil due to past allergic reactions to topical minoxidil. He plans to try dutasteride alone for 3 months before considering adding oral minoxidil.

User asks about pyrilutamide dosage and if others experienced gains. Mentions using 1ml twice daily due to cost.

Dutasteride is considered more effective than finasteride for hair loss, with some users increasing the dose to 2.5mg daily for better results. Experiences vary, with some seeing regrowth and others not, and side effects are a concern.

A dutasteride simulator predicts that daily 0.5 mg dosing results in higher DHT suppression compared to less frequent dosing. Twice-weekly dutasteride may be as effective as finasteride 5 mg, providing a balance between efficacy and ease of use.

A 28 year old using a hair loss prevention protocol to restore thinning hair, which includes finasteride, dutasteride, minoxidil, stemoxydine, alopecin, nizoral shampoo and microneedling; the user is now adding pyrilutamide solution to the regimen with the hope of improving their results. RU58841 was also ordered but not yet used.

The user started taking oral 0.5 mg dutasteride and 2.5 mg minoxidil daily since July 9. After about three months, they report positive progress in hair regrowth, with others agreeing it looks good.

The conversation is about making a topical solution from clascoterone powder, with references to using a RU58841 mixing guide for guidance. Concerns about product authenticity and bulk purchase requirements are also discussed.

High-dose oral minoxidil (>5 mg/day) can increase hair density in some men with androgenetic alopecia, but side effects like extra body hair and heart issues are common. Gradual dose increase is advised, but adverse effects may lead to discontinuation or dose adjustments.

The user has stopped hair loss using topical finasteride, dutasteride, minoxidil 5%, and a GHK-Cu melatonin caffeine blend. They are considering switching to a more potent minoxidil, specifically Dualgen 15%, for better regrowth results.

The conversation discusses how to mix pyrilutamide for hair loss treatment, suggesting a mixture of 500mg pyrilutamide with 70% ethanol and 30% propylene glycol, and a potential application dose of 1mL. The user has not personally used pyrilutamide but has researched its preparation and application based on others' experiences.

Switching from topical to an oral combo pill (1.2 mg finasteride, 3 mg minoxidil, vitamins) improved hair thickness without noticeable side effects. The user appreciates the convenience of a single daily pill over twice-daily topical applications.

The conversation is about the potential availability of GT20029 on the black market and whether users would try it. Participants advise waiting for phase 3 trial results to ensure safety and efficacy.

The conversation discusses using a multimodal approach to treat androgenic alopecia, including substances like gamma-linolenic acid, DHA, sulforaphane, melatonin, cetirizine, astaxanthin, fisetin, apigenin, curcumin, limonene, genistein, and berberine. Users also mention using ketoconazole, minoxidil, and low-level laser therapy (LLLT) as part of their hair loss treatment regimens.

The conversation discusses the ineffectiveness of tablet forms of dutasteride for hair loss due to poor absorption compared to soft gel capsules. It suggests switching to FDA-approved soft gel capsules for better results, as tablets may not adequately suppress DHT levels.

Taking creatine does not affect the effectiveness of finasteride for hair loss. Users generally agree that creatine is safe to use alongside finasteride and minoxidil.

A 28-year-old has been using oral dutasteride 0.5 mg, topical minoxidil 5%, and Cafune shampoo for 104 days with positive results and is considering adding microneedling. No side effects from dutasteride have been reported.

A peptide from Japanese water chestnut fruit may help with hair loss by suppressing DHT's effect on hair follicle cell death, potentially serving as a finasteride alternative. The treatment's effectiveness and safety in humans remain uncertain.

PP405 from Everychem is likely fake and potentially harmful, with concerns about its stability and the risk of using the wrong MPC inhibitor, which could damage hair follicles. The real PP405 was studied under strict conditions, and DIY attempts are discouraged due to unknown formulation and quality control.

Extended-release oral minoxidil (VDPHL01) shows promising results for hair growth with improved safety, achieving significant hair count increases and minimal side effects compared to placebo. The treatment is designed to maintain effective concentrations while reducing side effects, making it a safer option for those who cannot tolerate standard minoxidil.

Dutasteride's half-life varies with dosage, and lower doses can be effective with fewer side effects compared to finasteride. Some users report different side effects with dutasteride and finasteride, and extreme dosages of dutasteride are unnecessary and potentially harmful.

A user is considering dutasteride mesotherapy for hair loss due to concerns about oral side effects from high DHT levels. They have been using topical finasteride with minoxidil but are exploring mesotherapy as an alternative, while another user shares their experience with mesotherapy sessions using dutasteride and minoxidil without side effects.

The user is taking oral minoxidil, dutasteride, and finasteride but hasn't seen improvement in hair thickness. They experienced hair loss after switching from topical to oral minoxidil.

A user is considering a long-term hair loss treatment stack including Dutasteride, Finasteride, and oral Minoxidil, and is concerned about potential liver damage. Some responses suggest the stack is excessive, while others believe it's not harmful to the liver, but recommend regular blood work to monitor health.

The conversation discusses skepticism about group buys for hair loss treatments, highlighting issues with unverified chemicals and the risks involved. It suggests stabilizing with dutasteride and minoxidil, and considering a hair transplant instead of experimenting with untested products.

Selling KY19382 powder, a novel activator of Wnt/β-catenin signaling, and Kolliphor EL liquid for vehicle formulation. KY19382 is a growth agonist.

PP405's phase 2a trial results were presented, focusing on safety and pharmacokinetics, with a future meeting planned to share the full dataset. The trial includes a randomized controlled portion and an open-label extension, with no indication of phase 2B completion.

The user has been using topical finasteride since October without improvement and is considering adding a caffeine product with dimethylglycine. Another user suggests caffeine is more promising and advises consulting a dermatologist about the lack of progress with finasteride.

A dermatologist recommended a new supplement containing annurca apple, which reportedly doubles hair density and increases keratin after 60 days, to be used with finasteride. Some users are skeptical, considering it potentially ineffective or a marketing ploy, while others are open to trying it if it proves effective and affordable.