User shares 4-month hairline progress using minoxidil, finasteride, nizoral, and dermarolling. Others discuss treatment details and express admiration for the results.
Hair loss theories discussed include poor blood flow, scalp tension, inflammation, and DHT. Treatments mentioned are massaging scalp, minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841.
A 39 year old female who has been taking finasteride for 1.5 months and is experiencing side effects such as muscle and butt shrinkage, and weight loss despite still having tight clothing. The user is seeking advice from those with knowledge of bodybuilding and hormones to help figure out the issue.
The conversation discusses the tension theory of baldness, suggesting that over-developed masseter muscles may harm hair follicles. Botox injections to relax these muscles reportedly led to an 18% increase in hair count in men with AGA.
Training scalp muscles to absorb more DHT is suggested as a hair loss solution, but users debate its effectiveness compared to medications like dutasteride and finasteride. Concerns about side effects of DHT blockers, such as reduced libido, are discussed, with some advocating for natural remedies like scalp massages and healthy living.
A 30-year-old woman with androgenetic alopecia is considering bicalutamide to slow hair loss but is concerned about its impact on muscle growth due to its anti-androgen effects. Alternatives suggested include dutasteride, spironolactone, RU58841, and minoxidil, with concerns about bicalutamide's side effects.
Topical aldactone is discussed for its effects on men's hair and muscles. The conversation explores its potential benefits and side effects compared to other treatments like Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841.
Finasteride does not significantly affect muscle gains and can slightly increase testosterone levels. Creatine is generally considered safe to use with finasteride, though some believe it may increase DHT levels, potentially affecting hair loss.
The conversation discusses using finasteride topically for hair loss and concerns about potential side effects like feminization and impact on muscle growth. One person shared their experience with finasteride, indicating it increased testosterone and did not prevent them from gaining muscle or strength.
The user is experiencing chest sensitivity and muscle ache after using topical finasteride for a month and is concerned about potential gynecomastia. They are considering asking their doctor for blood work to check estrogen levels and are questioning whether to stop using finasteride.
Cold shock therapy may promote hair growth by stimulating follicular muscles and affecting stem cells. The exact mechanisms and full range of elements involved are not yet fully understood.
Follistatin, known for inhibiting myostatin and promoting muscle growth in mice, is being discussed as a potential treatment for hair loss. Specific treatments mentioned include Minoxidil, Finasteride, and RU58841.
Botox may help with hair loss by reducing muscle tension and inflammation, potentially lowering DHT levels. Regular sessions might be needed, and it could also help with migraines.
Scalp Botox may help hair loss by relaxing muscles and increasing blood flow, potentially benefiting conditions other than androgenetic alopecia. DHT affects hair follicles differently, causing tension and hair loss in some areas but not others.
The user shared their experience with dutasteride for hair loss prevention, noting side effects like muscle weakness and brain fog, and observed increased testosterone levels. They recommend starting with a low dose and adjusting based on individual needs and blood work results.
Dutasteride effectively stops hair loss but can cause side effects like sexual dysfunction, muscle mass changes, and testicle shrinkage. Adjusting the dosage may help manage these side effects, but long-term health effects remain a concern.
Stopping antihistamines may resolve neurological side effects when using finasteride. Users experienced muscle aches, headaches, and lethargy when combining the two.
A user experienced severe side effects from using topical minoxidil sublingually, including muscle cramps, dizziness, and high potassium levels. They were advised to stop and seek medical help, emphasizing that topical minoxidil is not safe for ingestion due to its alcohol content.
A 23-year-old male experienced nipple sensitivity after starting finasteride for hair loss and stopped using it due to concerns about gynecomastia. He is worried about the risk of developing gynecomastia if he resumes finasteride, especially with plans to increase muscle mass.
A 30-year-old male has been on finasteride/dutasteride for 3 years, with stable but still receding hairline, and blood tests showing high total testosterone but normal DHT and free testosterone levels. Despite challenges in gaining muscle, he maintains a good physique with a consistent lifting routine and recently improved results with creatine.
The conversation humorously discusses inducing goosebumps to potentially reverse hair loss, with mentions of using cold therapy and muscle exercises. It also references other unconventional ideas like removing a testicle to lower DHT.
A user experienced hair regrowth after 3 months using finasteride, both topical and oral minoxidil, 0.5mm microneedling daily, and 300mg testosterone. They reported noticeable muscle gains and no side effects while being on testosterone replacement therapy.
Dutasteride may inhibit androgen receptors in addition to reducing DHT, potentially explaining its effectiveness over finasteride for hair loss. Concerns about its impact on muscle growth are debated, with some suggesting no significant effects.
The user believes neck tension and poor posture contribute to hair loss, noticing improvements with yoga and muscle relaxation. Replies suggest androgenic alopecia as the cause and recommend exercises.
The user mixed RU58841 with Minoxidil for hair loss treatment and experienced reduced hair fall and thicker hair but stopped due to chest pain and muscle twitching. They plan to use a new routine without RU58841 or Finasteride due to side effects, including various topical treatments and peptides.
The user began experiencing hair loss a few years ago at age 22 and is a diffuse thinner with a Norwood scale rating of 2. They have a naturally athletic build and gain muscle easily, with a hairy chest and stomach.
A user discusses starting nandrolone replacement therapy to stop hair loss and improve hair health, noting its benefits over finasteride. They report halted hair loss, improved skin, increased muscle, and a calm mood after three weeks.
The conversation is about someone starting finasteride (fin) and wondering if it will affect their new ketogenic diet and weightlifting routine, with the goal of not disrupting weight loss or muscle gain while regrowing hair.