Potential side effects of 5AR inhibitors like finasteride and dutasteride. Users debate risks, benefits, and personal experiences with these hair loss treatments.
The user has been using finasteride, dutasteride, and RU58841 for hair loss without success and feels extremely uncomfortable with their appearance, including being bald and short. They express deep unhappiness and social isolation. Suggestions from others include adopting stoicism, focusing on personal development, considering a hair system, improving fashion, working out, and seeking therapy for mental health.
A new hair loss treatment theory beyond minoxidil and finasteride is proposed, causing mixed reactions in the community, with some members eager to explore and support it, while others call for more research and evidence.
The conversation discusses the use of RU58841, a non-FDA approved research chemical for hair loss, with mixed opinions on its safety and effectiveness. Some users are willing to try it as a last resort after other treatments like Minoxidil and Finasteride failed, while others express concerns about potential long-term side effects and lack of official research.
A man's experience with hair loss, which has caused him to lose an important part of his identity, and the treatments he is using to try and combat it. Others have joined in the conversation to share their own experiences and offer support.
A user shared their personal theory on hair loss, suggesting it's caused by reduced blood flow and scalp calcification rather than DHT, and claimed to have stopped their hair loss by massaging the scalp, using acid peels, and applying oils and copper peptides. They have not noticed further hair loss for six years since starting this routine.
The conversation discusses a natural approach to hair loss treatment, including using natural shampoo, daily scalp massages, derma rolling, and dietary changes, with the goal of improving hair health. Some users express skepticism about natural methods, advocating for finasteride or minoxidil, while others share positive experiences with natural treatments like essential oils and derma rolling.
Embracing the decision to buzz one's hair due to dealing with hair loss, and discussing various treatments such as finasteride, minoxidil, and rogaine. People have shared supportive comments and advice on how to style a bald head.
A 30-year-old man with diffuse hair thinning shared his hair regrowth regimen, which includes increasing Vitamin D intake, taking oral castor oil, using a dermapen, and various supplements like Glycine, K2, Vitamin E, Vitamin C, Aspirin, Sodium Bicarbonate, and a multivitamin. He also mentioned inconsistent use of Minoxidil, Peppermint Oil, Zix, and topical Castor Oil, and negative side effects from Finasteride, RU58841, and Nizoral.
The side effects of taking finasteride as a treatment for hair loss, with particular focus on its sexual and psychiatric side effects; research has indicated that there are high and low outliers in terms of prevalence of sexual side effects, but it is usually between 3-5%, while evidence of lasting sexual side effects comes from lower quality sources.
Treatments for hair loss, including finasteride, dutasteride, minoxidil, ketoconazole, microneedling, and low level laser light therapy, which aim to reduce DHT production, increase cell absorption and blood flow, and stimulate epidermal stem cells. It also stresses the importance of patience when using these treatments.
Hair growth relies on mechanical forces, not just chemicals, with tissue acting like a motor. Minoxidil and finasteride help, but maintaining tissue elasticity and addressing mechanical issues are essential.
Addressing hair loss by focusing on posture, blood flow, and craniofacial development. Methods include improving posture, cardiovascular activity, scalp massages, healthy diet, meditation, using minoxidil, and addressing craniofacial issues.
The conversation discusses using very low dose topical finasteride to achieve specific serum DHT reduction percentages. It concludes that finasteride dosage increases linearly between 5-30% DHT reduction but requires exponential increases for reductions up to 70%.
Pyrilutamide is a selective AR antagonist with a high binding affinity, making it effective in competing with DHT for androgen receptors. The 1% concentration is more effective than the 0.5%, but the latter may suffice for mild hair loss; the drug is considered a good option for those avoiding 5AR blockers due to side effects.
Pyrilutimide and CB-03-01, two treatments for hair loss, have similar clinical trial results despite different binding affinities to androgen receptors. Factors other than binding affinity, like the time a drug stays bound to the receptor, may influence their effectiveness.
Comparing the effectiveness of RU58841, Pyrilutamide and CB-03-01 as treatments for hair loss, with people discussing different aspects such as binding affinity, time of inhibition, safety data and cost.
FCE 28260 (PNU 156765), an under-explored 5α-reductase inhibitor, showcases promising results in research by Giudici et al., outperforming well-known treatments like Finasteride in reducing the conversion of testosterone to DHT. Its superior efficacy, demonstrated through lower IC50 values in both natural and human recombinant enzyme studies, suggests it could offer more effective management of DHT-related conditions. Additionally, its lower molecular weight hints at better potential for topical application, potentially offering advantages in treating conditions such as androgenic alopecia. Despite its potential, it has not advanced in development, possibly due to financial limitations, leaving its therapeutic prospects and side effect profile largely unexplored.
A 21-year-old with diffuse thinning hair is considering RU58841 due to side effects from topical finasteride and is asking for the lowest effective dose and time to see results from RU58841 users.
Pyrilutamide, a nonsteroidal antiandrogen drug under development for the potential treatment of androgenic alopecia. The conversation discusses its binding affinity to the androgen receptor and the timeline for possible availability after trials are completed in the United States and China.
The conversation is about adding a low dose of pyrilutamide to a hair loss treatment regimen. Specific treatments mentioned include Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841.
Researching whether pyri and enza, which are stereoisomers of each other, share the same features related to CNS penetration/GABA Inhibition; safety and efficacy when used topically at 0.5-1%; and cost comparison between the two treatments.
An 18-year-old experienced severe side effects, including heart palpitations and high blood pressure, after using RU58841 once, leading to a referral to cardiology for suspected left ventricular hypertrophy. The user regrets using RU58841 and seeks advice on recovery, while others suggest preexisting conditions or genetic predispositions may be factors.
Topical finasteride concentrations are likely much higher than necessary for effective follicular DHT suppression, with current standards being 100-1000 times above the theoretical minimum. Lower concentrations (0.001-0.0025%) might still work locally while minimizing systemic exposure.
The conversation discusses concerns that Anagenic's version of GT20029 might not be as effective or safe as Kintor's, with comparisons to issues faced by pyrilutamide. The chemical structure of the drug has been published.
RU58841 is discussed as a hair loss treatment, with users considering lower doses like 2.5% to reduce costs. Some users suggest that if already blocking DHT, lower doses might still be effective unless there's high sensitivity to DHT.
OP wants to increase pyrilutamide concentration from 0.5% to 1% while already using finasteride. Users suggest waiting for a commercial 1% solution and caution against using grey market products.
Kintor 0.9% is not effective for hair regrowth or thickening and may cause testicle sensitivity. The conversation criticizes the hype around Kintor and discusses the ineffectiveness of pyrilutamide compared to other treatments like RU58841, finasteride, and minoxidil.