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Woman uses antiandrogens for hair thinning prevention, experiences severe dry eye with finasteride. Asks if dutasteride could be better despite potential for worse dry eye.

The conversation discusses the potential of developing a selective oral SARM to target androgen activity in the scalp and skin, as an alternative to oral Dutasteride and Finasteride, which have systemic side effects. It also mentions Clascoterone and RU58841 as topical treatments for hair loss.

The conversation is about a user considering reducing their dutasteride dose due to side effects like lower libido and watery semen. They plan to use dutasteride mesotherapy every three months to maintain hair while reducing systemic DHT suppression.

Pumpkin Seed Oil and Perilla Oil (with alpha-lipoic acid, linoleic acid, and oleic acid) are discussed as potential 5alpha-reductase inhibitors. The conversation focuses on their effectiveness for hair loss treatment.

Akinfenrawr experienced negative side effects from oral finasteride and RU58841, and is seeking alternative hair loss treatments. They discuss various options, including raloxifene, oral dutasteride, liposomal finasteride, Breezula, Pyrilutamide, SM04554, and sulforaphane, but have concerns about efficacy, availability, and cost.

The user stopped using finasteride and RU58841 and is considering CB-03-01 for androgenic alopecia but is concerned about the cost and effectiveness, especially at a lower dose than in clinical trials. They are also using minoxidil, micro-needling, and nizoral shampoo but are unsure about the correct application method for CB-03-01.

Spironolactone is more potent and lowers testosterone and DHT, while dutasteride only impacts DHT. For female hair loss, checking hormones and considering treatments like oral minoxidil, spironolactone, or topical minoxidil is recommended.

Higher doses of dutasteride reduce scalp DHT more effectively than finasteride, but have diminishing returns after 3mg daily and may cause more side effects. Combining dutasteride with topical minoxidil can enhance results, but using both finasteride and dutasteride together is unnecessary.

Cyclosporine A is discussed as a powerful hair growth stimulant, potentially more effective than minoxidil, but concerns about safety and side effects, including cancer risk, limit its use. The conversation highlights the need for further research and experimentation with topical application, despite its risks.

RU58841's potential side effects, particularly heart palpitations, are debated, with some attributing them to contamination with minoxidil. Users report mixed experiences, with some seeing no side effects and others cautioning about the lack of reliable data on RU58841's safety.

The conversation discusses the comparison of Pyrilutamide Phase II US trial results with 1 mg finasteride for hair loss treatment. It mentions that the total hair count increase in the US trial was not as good as the China trial.

User found hair loss stabilization without side effects using a topical solution of 0.008% Finasteride, 2% RU, and Stemoxydine. Other treatments like Eucapil, Fluridil, RU-monotherapy, and Pyrilutamide didn't work for them.

The user tried pyrilutamide for hair loss and noticed reduced scalp itch and improved skin but stopped due to mild heart sensations. They plan to update after consistent use, noting improved sleep when applied at night.

The conversation discusses skepticism about group buys for hair loss treatments, highlighting issues with unverified chemicals and the risks involved. It suggests stabilizing with dutasteride and minoxidil, and considering a hair transplant instead of experimenting with untested products.

GT20029 is discussed as a potential treatment for androgenetic hair loss by targeting androgen receptors, unlike finasteride which reduces DHT broadly. Concerns include its effectiveness, genetic variations in androgen receptors, and availability, with some skepticism about its potential as a true alternative.

Microneedling before applying topical finasteride or dutasteride may enhance their effectiveness by increasing local absorption in the scalp, despite concerns about systemic absorption. Users discuss combining this method with oral treatments and minoxidil, noting potential benefits and side effects.

Pyrilutamide, a possible hair loss treatment, ceasing to be traded due to patent laws; and the hope that this indicates it may be a legitimate treatment.

Hair loss discussion includes alfatradiol (Pantostin/Ell Cranell) as a potential treatment. Users share opinions on its effectiveness in their regimen.

Zinc picolinate and saw palmetto may lower DHT but are less effective than finasteride. Finasteride and minoxidil are preferred treatments, with ketoconazole shampoo as a suggested addition.

Low-dose topical finasteride may reduce scalp DHT with fewer side effects than oral finasteride, though it can still lower blood serum DHT. Users report varying experiences, with some finding topical use effective and side-effect-free, while others note significant DHT suppression.

Finasteride and Dutasteride are under review in the EU due to concerns about side effects like depression, but they are unlikely to be banned. Access to these medications varies, with easier availability in the UK compared to some EU countries.

RU58841 lacks FDA approval due to financial and safety concerns, including potential cardiological side effects. The company abandoned further research, and users report adverse effects like heart palpitations and gynecomastia.

ET-02, a PAI-1 inhibitor, is not proven to be more effective than Minoxidil for hair loss. Other treatments like finasteride, dutasteride, PP405, and AMP-303 are also discussed, focusing on cellular senescence and oxidative stress.

The conversation is about testing the effectiveness of RU58841 for hair loss, with the user planning to increase their dose to 30 mg per day along with 20 mg of Minoxidil. The test results showed approximately 70 mg/ml, which the user considers a good result.

A user is considering tapering off finasteride due to concerns about long-term side effects and cost, and is exploring alternatives like zinc and saw palmetto. Their current regimen includes finasteride, Adderall, zinc, bupropion, fish oil, baby aspirin, Rogaine foam, and ketoconazole shampoo.

Switching from oral to topical dutasteride can cause shedding due to changes in DHT levels, and it's recommended to overlap both treatments to minimize this effect. Topical dutasteride may cause scalp irritation, and the user is considering dutasteride mesotherapy as an alternative.

Minoxidil may age skin by slowing collagen synthesis, but using collagen peptides and a basic skincare routine might counteract this. Foam minoxidil could reduce systemic absorption and avoid alcohol-related side effects.

Minoxidil may not be effective due to low sulfotransferase activity, and the user considers adding tretinoin to the regimen. They are unsure about the timing and combination with microneedling.

A 30-year-old man experienced significant hair regrowth and improved libido after using finasteride and dutasteride for androgenetic alopecia, with no adverse effects. He plans to reduce dutasteride dosage when trying to conceive and has been using topical minoxidil since 2015.

RU58841, a potential hair loss treatment, was not commercialized due to marketability issues and lack of long-term safety data. Concerns about its formulation and delivery methods further complicate its use.