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The conversation discusses alternative and unorthodox hair loss treatments, including RU58841, nandrolone, and dianabol, as well as theoretical approaches involving high doses of estrogen and selective estrogen receptor modulators. These methods are considered extreme and potentially harmful but are explored for those unable to tolerate traditional 5-alpha reductase inhibitors.

Zinc picolinate and saw palmetto may lower DHT but are less effective than finasteride. Finasteride and minoxidil are preferred treatments, with ketoconazole shampoo as a suggested addition.

Dutasteride mesotherapy, combined with peptides and exosomes, is being considered for hair loss treatment. One user suggests that oral finasteride or dutasteride mesotherapy may not be necessary if already taking oral dutasteride.

PP405 is discussed as a potential hair growth stimulant, possibly more effective than minoxidil, but not a cure for hair loss. There is skepticism about its ability to regrow "deadzones," and concerns about its impact on those with hair transplants.

A 25-year-old male experiencing hair loss and thinning since age 20 is seeking advice on effective DHT inhibitors. He lists various oral and topical treatments, excluding Minoxidil due to adverse effects.

Procyanidin B2, a compound derived from Annurca apples, as a potential treatment for pattern hair loss. Several clinical studies were mentioned, which found that procyanidin B2 could increase hair growth, density, and keratin content. Other treatments such as Minoxidil, Finasteride, and RU58841 were not discussed.

Discussion on hair loss treatments, focusing on pp405, with skepticism about its effectiveness and concerns about its association with the cosmetic industry. Users also mention treatments like Minoxidil and Finasteride.

The conversation discusses the absorption and effectiveness of PG-free versus PG versions of RU58841, with some users believing PG improves efficacy while others see no difference. Concerns about RU58841's potential side effects on the endocrine system are also mentioned, with one user considering switching to pyrilutamide.

User starts Nuclear Stack treatment for hair loss, including Dutasteride, Minoxidil, RU58841, Derminator 2, and supplements. Seeks advice on storing and dosing RU58841.

An 18-year-old experiencing hair loss and seborrheic dermatitis has tried finasteride, dutasteride, and various shampoos without success. They are considering anti-androgens like RU58841 and KX-826 for oil control and dandruff reduction.

The conversation discusses using zinc sulphate and azelaic acid to inhibit 5 alpha-reductase activity, which could potentially treat androgen-related skin conditions like hair loss. Combining these with vitamin B6 could enhance the effect, potentially offering an alternative to finasteride.

The conversation is about the best vehicle for RU58841, comparing trichosol and Garnier/Vichy Stemoxydine, avoiding propylene glycol (PG) or ethanol due to previous scalp damage. The user is also seeking sources for these products in the EU.

A 21-year-old male shared his extensive hair loss treatment protocol, which includes Dutasteride, RU58841, Ketoconazole shampoo, oral Minoxidil, pyrilutamide, MK677, dermastamping, and castor oil, and reported improved hair regrowth and overall well-being. He has experienced no side effects and has also improved his diet and lifestyle.

The conversation discusses treating male pattern baldness with topical products containing Saw Palmetto extract. Specific treatments mentioned include Minoxidil, Finasteride, and RU58841.

The user is seeking a topical spray combining finasteride, minoxidil, and RU58841 or dutasteride due to side effects from oral treatments. They believe an all-in-one topical solution would be easier for long-term use.

The conversation is about the potential format of Breezula, a hair loss treatment, and concerns that it might be greasy or sticky. Specific treatments mentioned are Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841.

PP405 shows promise for hair regrowth by manipulating stem cell characteristics and lactate dehydrogenase, with Phase 2a trials pending. Google Ventures' $15M investment suggests confidence, but results and market availability remain uncertain.

The user is considering switching from finasteride to RU-58841 for hair loss due to side effects and is concerned about its safety around cats. They are also seeking dosage suggestions and alternatives like pyrilutamide.

The user cannot handle Minoxidil and is looking for an alternative to dilute topical finasteride. They are considering using Alpecin liquid as a solution.

Discussion on hair loss treatments, focusing on Breezula, with mentions of Minoxidil, finasteride, RU58841, Pyrilutamide, GT20029, and PP405. Breezula's effectiveness is uncertain, with some trials showing minimal regrowth.

Finasteride, Minoxidil, Bioneer CosmeRNA, Technoderma, Kintor, Hope, Breezula, and Follicum treatments showed increases in hair count, with Technoderma showing the highest increase at 24.3 hairs/cm². Amplifica has not yet published results.

The conversation discusses the effectiveness of anti-androgens for hair loss, with a preference for topical treatments like RU58841 over oral options due to better scalp concentration and fewer side effects. Topical finasteride at 0.1% may provide some results, especially when combined with a topical androgen receptor antagonist like RU58841.

The conversation discusses skepticism about DHT blocker supplements for hair loss, with many users recommending proven treatments like finasteride and minoxidil instead. Some users shared personal experiences with alternative treatments like beta-sitosterol and saw palmetto, noting side effects and limited effectiveness.

A user is seeking advice on a new topical hair loss treatment containing Minoxidil 3%, Finasteride 0.3%, Progesterone 1%, Hydrocortisone butyrate 0.1%, and Ketoconazole 0.5%. They are concerned about the systemic absorption of Finasteride and plan to do blood tests and a spermiogram before starting.

Treatments for hair loss, specifically the use of minoxidil, finasteride and RU58841. Replies to this post suggest that users should share relevant information publicly rather than through direct messages.

The conversation is about finding a legitimate source for Procyanidin B2 or Apple Extract with a clear percentage of Procyanidin B2 for making a topical solution. The user reports thicker and darker body hair after taking Oral Apple Polyphenols extract.

Eucapill 2% used for 1 month reduced shedding from 200 to 10/20 hairs daily with no side effects. Finasteride caused side effects like ED and watery semen.

The impact of creatine on DHT levels, and whether it could cause accelerated male pattern baldness (MPB). The user taking a 5 alpha reductase inhibitor found that their DHT levels actually reduced despite taking creatine for nine weeks. Replies suggested looking into testosterone levels as well and debating the safety of creatine use in relation to MPB.

Microneedling with RU58841 may not be necessary since RU works topically by occupying receptors before DHT binds. RU58841 is a topical anti-androgen.

Clascoterone is being discussed for hair loss, but its current acne formulation may not be suitable for scalp use due to potential skin irritation and lower dosage compared to Breezula. Users mention other treatments like finasteride, minoxidil, and pyrilutamide, with some expressing skepticism about clascoterone's effectiveness for hair loss.