Hair loss is linked to cellular physiology and the IGF-1 to TGF-B1 ratio, not just androgen sensitivity. The theory lacks evidence, while finasteride and minoxidil are effective treatments.
The conversation discusses the potential for developing a biologic "DHT sponge" to neutralize DHT in the bloodstream as a treatment for hair loss, suggesting it could be more targeted and have fewer side effects than current treatments like finasteride and dutasteride. Concerns include the complexity, cost, and potential side effects of such a treatment, as well as skepticism about its feasibility and market interest.
PP405 is a potential hair loss treatment that may activate dormant hair follicles, but there are concerns about its effectiveness, cost, and side effects. Users discuss treatments like minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841, expressing skepticism about PP405's long-term success and accessibility.
A pharmacy student proposed a hair loss treatment using minoxidil, finasteride, clascoterone, and tretinoin, aiming for high effectiveness with minimal side effects. Reactions were mixed, with some questioning its feasibility and others showing interest.
A user experienced issues with an order from Umbrella Labs, initially not receiving their product, PP405, and facing poor customer service, but eventually received the order after posting about it. Other users also reported similar problems with incomplete orders and lack of communication from the company.
Oleic acid and ethanol are being considered for hair regrowth, with some users planning to self-experiment. There is skepticism about their effectiveness, and ongoing use of treatments like finasteride and minoxidil is mentioned.
A 78-year-old man regrew hair after suffering burns, suggesting that injury-induced healing processes might trigger hair growth. Microneedling and other treatments like minoxidil and finasteride are discussed as potential methods to stimulate similar regrowth.
ABS-201, a prolactin receptor blocker, shows promise in reversing hair loss and graying, with early success in macaques. Current treatments like finasteride, minoxidil, and RU58841 are still widely used, but new options like PP405 are eagerly anticipated.
PP405 may not need daily use like minoxidil, but finasteride might still be needed to maintain hair regrowth. PP405 reawakens dormant hair follicles, potentially offering a long-term solution, though not a permanent cure.
A user shared their hair regrowth journey using a comprehensive treatment plan including oral minoxidil, oral dutasteride, topical minoxidil, Nizoral shampoo, microneedling, and various supplements. They reported noticeable improvement in their crown area after 4.5 months, with only minor side effects like forehead pimples.
The user has been using finasteride, minoxidil, microneedling, PRP, and ProCell therapy for hair loss but sees no progress after nine months. They are considering switching to dutasteride and possibly a hair transplant, with suggestions to add oral minoxidil.
PP405 is a new hair loss treatment advancing quickly in trials, generating excitement and skepticism about its effectiveness and marketing claims. Some see it as a potential alternative to minoxidil and finasteride, but concerns about long-term effects and the need for DHT blockers persist.
The conversation discusses hair loss treatment options, focusing on finasteride and its potential effects on gynecomastia. The user is considering finasteride while managing hormone levels with supplements like boron, vitamin D, zinc, magnesium, and P5P, and is advised to consult an endocrinologist for further evaluation.
Dutasteride is preferred over finasteride for hair loss due to fewer side effects. Combining dutasteride with minoxidil and RU58841 is effective for hair regrowth, even during steroid use.
Switching generic finasteride manufacturers can reduce side effects while maintaining effectiveness. Different fillers in generics may affect bioavailability and cause varying side effects.
The conversation humorously suggests that the hair loss industry, referred to as "Big Bald," deliberately delays a cure to profit from ongoing treatments like minoxidil, finasteride, and dutasteride. Participants debate whether a cure would be more profitable than current treatments, with some suggesting that the industry prefers continuous treatments for sustained profit.
PP405 and hair cloning are discussed as potential treatments for reversing hair loss from Norwood 7 to Norwood 1. Hair cloning is seen as a more permanent solution, while PP405's effectiveness and long-term effects remain uncertain.
Adding a daily scalp massage with an acupressure device before applying minoxidil can enhance its effects by improving blood circulation, with no side effects. Users are advised to continue microneedling weekly and consider using a derma stamp to avoid scarring.
Hair follicles are mostly dormant but can be reactivated with treatments like minoxidil, finasteride, and microneedling. A new drug, PP405, shows promise for hair regrowth but may not be available until 2027-2028.
A 37-year-old man achieved significant hair regrowth in five months using topical minoxidil 5%, rosemary oil massages, and Nizoral 2% shampoo. His impressive results led to disbelief and admiration, with some attributing his success to being a "hyper responder."
Microneedling, combined with finasteride and minoxidil, appears to enhance hair growth, with users reporting noticeable improvements. The process involves using a 0.5mm derma roller, which some believe increases blood flow and stimulates hair follicles.
PP405 is a potential hair loss treatment that inhibits mitochondrial pyruvate carriers, increasing lactate dehydrogenase activity and stimulating hair follicle stem cells. In a phase 1 trial, 31% of participants showed over 20% hair density increase with PP405 treatment.
The user used microneedling, zinc, vitamin D3, biotin, magnesium, saw palmetto, pumpkin seed oil, and a DHT-blocker shampoo with biotin for hair loss. They are considering adding minoxidil due to stagnation in progress.
The user is experiencing rapid hair loss despite using dutasteride, finasteride, and minoxidil, and is concerned about high estradiol and testosterone levels. They are advised to consult an endocrinologist for potential hormonal imbalances.
PP405 is expected to be on the market between 2027 and 2030, with phase 3 trials starting in 2026. There is skepticism about its fast-tracking due to its cosmetic nature, and it may appear on the gray market sooner.
Hair loss treatments include finasteride, minoxidil, microneedling, dutasteride, CB-03-01, RU-58841, and experimental options like KY-19382 and stem cell therapy. Some treatments are considered ineffective or risky, such as ketoconazole, PRP, and low-level laser therapy.
Dutasteride caused persistent hair shedding and no improvement for 18 months, leading to a switch back to finasteride. The user also uses oral minoxidil and plans to focus on better scalp health.
The user saw no hair regrowth after a year of using finasteride and dutasteride, only maintaining their current hair. Many recommend adding minoxidil for potential regrowth.
PP405 may reactivate dormant hair follicles but won't replace hair transplants or resurrect dead follicles. Its effectiveness, cost, and impact compared to treatments like minoxidil and finasteride are uncertain.
The user has been using finasteride for 1 year and 7 months and oral minoxidil for 6 months, noticing peach fuzz that may turn into terminal hair. The user has experienced no side effects and is considering additional treatments like dermarolling and possibly increasing the minoxidil dose.