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      community Androgen degraders for hair loss

      in Research/Science  61 upvotes 1 year ago
      The conversation discusses androgen receptor degraders for hair loss, highlighting their potential advantages over traditional AR blockers like RU58841 and pyrilutamide. Concerns about the safety and cost of these treatments are also mentioned.

      community Pyrilutamide ,the molecule’s true nature

      in Research  302 upvotes 1 year ago
      Pyrilutamide is a selective AR antagonist with a high binding affinity, making it effective in competing with DHT for androgen receptors. The 1% concentration is more effective than the 0.5%, but the latter may suffice for mild hair loss; the drug is considered a good option for those avoiding 5AR blockers due to side effects.

      community Research behind RU-58642? Has anyone heard of this?

      in Research/Science  1 upvotes 1 year ago
      RU-58642 is a powerful anti-androgen that was not developed further, possibly due to safety concerns or financial reasons. RU58841 is a topical alternative, but it is less effective than finasteride and dutasteride, and its long-term effects are not well-studied.

      community Is regrowth on an androgen receptor blocker possible?

      in Chat  11 upvotes 2 years ago
      RU and Pyri block androgen receptors to prevent hair loss but may also hinder hair regrowth since they prevent testosterone, which can stimulate hair growth, from binding to these receptors. The user is questioning if this understanding is correct.

      community No access to RU, Pyri. Any alternative anti androgen?

      in Treatment  4 upvotes 1 year ago
      The conversation discusses alternatives to RU58841 for hair loss treatment, with suggestions including topical spironolactone, peppermint and rosemary oils, and saw palmetto. The user also considers ordering RU58841 from China but finds it too expensive.
      FCE 28260: A Forgotten 5α-Reductase Inhibitor

      community FCE 28260: A Forgotten 5α-Reductase Inhibitor

      in Research  330 upvotes 1 year ago
      FCE 28260 (PNU 156765), an under-explored 5α-reductase inhibitor, showcases promising results in research by Giudici et al., outperforming well-known treatments like Finasteride in reducing the conversion of testosterone to DHT. Its superior efficacy, demonstrated through lower IC50 values in both natural and human recombinant enzyme studies, suggests it could offer more effective management of DHT-related conditions. Additionally, its lower molecular weight hints at better potential for topical application, potentially offering advantages in treating conditions such as androgenic alopecia. Despite its potential, it has not advanced in development, possibly due to financial limitations, leaving its therapeutic prospects and side effect profile largely unexplored.

      community Overwhelming amount of anti-androgens

      in Female 3 years ago
      The conversation discusses the effectiveness of anti-androgens for hair loss, with a preference for topical treatments like RU58841 over oral options due to better scalp concentration and fewer side effects. Topical finasteride at 0.1% may provide some results, especially when combined with a topical androgen receptor antagonist like RU58841.

      community Are these all the anti androgen products?

      in Treatment  6 upvotes 2 years ago
      The conversation lists hair loss treatments including finasteride, dutasteride, RU58841, pyrilutamide, breezula, and fluridil, and suggests ketoconazole as another option. Some users warn against using certain treatments like cyproterone acetate, bicalutamide, and spironolactone due to their strong anti-androgen effects and potential impact on masculinity.

      community Kintor develop GT20026 Anti-Androgen receptor drug with NO SIDES

      in Treatment  18 upvotes 5 years ago
      The conversation discusses GT20029, a new topical drug for hair loss and acne without notable side effects, which has been accepted for investigational use in China. Some users express skepticism about the legitimacy of the company and the potential for other drugs like RU58841 to be developed due to patent expiration and lack of profitability.

      community Bicalutamide effect on androgens?

      in Treatment  4 upvotes 5 years ago
      Bicalutamide blocks androgen receptors, preventing testosterone and DHT from binding, which can help with hair loss but may cause feminization. It is not recommended for those who do not want feminization effects.

      community Any good experiences with Alfatradiol ?

      in Treatment  4 upvotes 6 years ago
      Alfatradiol is discussed as a weak 5ARI and estrogen, not as effective as minoxidil, RU58841, or CB-03-01, but a safe alternative for those who can't use finasteride. Users express frustration over the lack of strong FDA-approved topical antiandrogens for hair loss.

      community If RU58841 is such an effective anti androgen

      in Research/Science  46 upvotes 2 years ago
      RU58841 is discussed as a topical anti-androgen for hair loss, but its effectiveness and safety are not well-documented, leading to mixed opinions and experiences among users. Some combine it with finasteride, but concerns about side effects and lack of FDA approval limit its popularity.

      community The story of RU58841/PSK3841

      in Research/Science 1 year ago
      RU58841, an anti-androgenic compound, showed early promise for treating alopecia but faced challenges after its patent in 1997. Despite advancing to Phase II trials, safety concerns and financial struggles led Aventis to abandon its development. Proskelia, which later merged into ProStrakan, couldn't prioritize the drug, leading to its eventual stagnation and failure to reach the market.

      community Bicalutamide and muscles growth

      in Female  8 upvotes 1 year ago
      A 30-year-old woman with androgenetic alopecia is considering bicalutamide to slow hair loss but is concerned about its impact on muscle growth due to its anti-androgen effects. Alternatives suggested include dutasteride, spironolactone, RU58841, and minoxidil, with concerns about bicalutamide's side effects.

      community EMA is re-examining Winlevi (clascoterone at lower concentration)

      in Treatment  8 upvotes 11 months ago
      Clascoterone in Winlevi, a topical AR antagonist, is being re-examined due to concerns about HPA axis suppression in adolescents, but it's unlikely to be banned for adult use in androgenetic alopecia (AGA). The European Medicines Agency recommended refusing Winlevi for acne vulgaris, but this may not affect Breezula's approval for AGA.

      community Is RU58841 or pyrilutamide a stronger topical anti-androgen?

      in Treatment  3 upvotes 5 months ago
      The conversation discusses adding either RU58841 or pyrilutamide to a hair loss treatment regimen that already includes oral dutasteride and oral minoxidil. RU58841 is considered the stronger anti-androgen but may have more side effects.

      community For those that have used anti androgens what is your experience?

      in Research/Science  16 upvotes 2 years ago
      People discussed their experiences with anti-androgens for hair loss, mentioning side effects like chest pains with RU58841 and skepticism due to lack of safety data, while considering Fluridil as a potential addition to treatment. Some users expressed reluctance to use these chemicals.