RU58841, a potential hair loss treatment, was not commercialized due to marketability issues and lack of long-term safety data. Concerns about its formulation and delivery methods further complicate its use.
The conversation discusses hair loss treatments, mentioning minoxidil, finasteride, RU58841, VDPHL, GT20029, and follicle cloning as potential solutions. It also reveals that the discussion about PP405 was an April Fool's joke.
PP405's phase 2a trial results were presented, focusing on safety and pharmacokinetics, with a future meeting planned to share the full dataset. The trial includes a randomized controlled portion and an open-label extension, with no indication of phase 2B completion.
RU58841, an anti-androgenic compound, showed early promise for treating alopecia but faced challenges after its patent in 1997. Despite advancing to Phase II trials, safety concerns and financial struggles led Aventis to abandon its development. Proskelia, which later merged into ProStrakan, couldn't prioritize the drug, leading to its eventual stagnation and failure to reach the market.
PP405 is criticized for overhyped claims and cherry-picked data, with doubts about its effectiveness compared to minoxidil and finasteride. Many users express skepticism, emphasizing the need for more comprehensive trial results.
PP405 shows initial promise for treating androgenetic alopecia, with safety confirmed in early trials, but skepticism remains due to limited data. Further trials are needed to determine its true efficacy and potential market impact.
A user experienced worsened hair condition after a PRP session and is considering stopping further sessions. They are using a Dermapen, electric massage, iron, saw palmetto, and plan to start minoxidil, but have had side effects with finasteride and are advised to consider dutasteride under medical supervision.
A Phase 1 update for the HMI 115 clinical trial, which involves 16 participants and is expected to end in July 2023; as well as changes to the recruitment process, including treatment protocols with Minoxidil, Finasteride, and RU58841.
Concerns about the potential high cost of new hair loss treatments, pp405 and gt20029, were discussed, with some users willing to pay a premium if they are effective. Alternatives like finasteride and minoxidil are mentioned as current, more affordable options, and there is speculation about future generic versions and black market availability.
RT1640, a combination of cyclosporin A, minoxidil, and RT175, is discussed as a potential treatment for hair regrowth and repigmentation. The unique formulation aims to enhance hair follicle growth and restore hair pigment without the negative side effects of immunosuppressants.
A user ordered RU58841 from a Chinese supplier, found it to be less than 99% pure, and plans to try a different seller next time. Concerns were raised about impurities, but the user believes they are likely inactive fillers rather than harmful substances.
A user is seeing good results with RU58841 for hair loss, noting reduced shedding and thicker hair. They plan to use pumpkin seed oil as a solvent to avoid water content, which they believe reduces the effectiveness of anti-androgens.
The user is asking if it's safe to use a glass dropper from a finished RU58841 product with a new RU58841 product and if cleaning it with water is sufficient. They are concerned about the quality of the plastic dropper that came with the new product.
The user is experiencing scalp irritation from using RU58841 with a 70% ethanol and 30% propylene glycol vehicle and is considering switching to a less irritating vehicle, such as 30% ethanol with 70% squalane or emu oil. They are seeking feedback on the effectiveness and irritation levels of these alternative carriers.
The conversation discusses the delay in the PP405 Phase 2 study results, now expected by the end of 2025, and skepticism about research practices. There is also mention of optimism for Amplifica's AMP303 and a topical treatment in early testing.
PP405 might take 3-4 years to be available, but some claim Everychem offers a similar product, though its effectiveness is debated. Users discuss the risks of using untested grey market products and the potential for adverse effects.
Mixing RU58841 with cetosomal minoxidil is discussed due to scalp irritation from ethanol PG vehicles. A mixture of the two turned bright pink when left to dry.
PP405 may damage hair follicles if used long-term, suggesting cycling might be necessary. Combining it with finasteride could help maintain hair growth.
PP405 shows promise for hair growth with significant results after 4 weeks, but skepticism exists due to its unavailability. Some users are hopeful for its potential, while others express concerns about side effects and market release delays.
Hmi115, a prolactin receptor blocker, showed promise for hair growth, but results from Phase 2 trials have not been published. ABS-201, an AI-based analog, is expected to begin trials in December 2025, while commercialization of treatments like PP-405 is anticipated around 2027.
JXL082 is not the same as PP405, leading to a halt in sales and a plan to synthesize the real PP405. There is skepticism about the safety and effectiveness of JXL082 and PP405, with concerns about patent issues and the long-term impact on hair growth.
The user is experiencing irritation from using PG with RU58841 and is seeking alternative solutions like K&B in the UK. They report redness, itchiness, and flaky skin from the current treatment.
New hair loss treatments PP405 and VDPHL01 are discussed with skepticism and hope, alongside existing treatments like minoxidil and finasteride. Users express frustration over limited progress since the 1980s but remain cautiously optimistic.
The conversation is about the potential release of GT20029 on the grey market and concerns about its safety and authenticity. One user advises waiting for the official release by Kintor.
ET-02 (RS 5441) shows promising results for hair growth, performing better in humans than in mice. There is debate over the effectiveness compared to minoxidil, with some users wanting more detailed data.
A user is using Minoxidil, finasteride, saw palmetto, and Minimalist RCP serum to address hair thinning, with some success but concerns about the long-term benefits of Minimalist. They plan to continue Minoxidil and finasteride for another year before considering a hair transplant.