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The conversation is about sourcing gray market compounds, gt20029 and pp405, for hair loss treatment. The user is interested in these compounds despite their unproven status and potential risks.

The conversation discusses the approval of Kintor Pharmaceutical's AR-PROTAC (GT20029) for clinical trials in China for acne and androgenic alopecia. One user expresses optimism about new treatments being developed and seeks clarification on how the new drug works, specifically if it temporarily degrades the AR protein to reduce DHT sensitivity in hair follicles.

The user diagnosed with DUPA tried treatments like dutasteride, finasteride, RU58841, and minoxidil without success and is considering a hair system. They hope for a future cure, possibly with PP405, and others suggest options like scalp biopsy and SMP.

A new hair loss treatment, PP405, showed promising Phase 2a results with 31% of patients experiencing over 20% hair density increase without systemic absorption, avoiding hormonal side effects. The treatment is expected to be expensive, with Phase 3 trials starting mid-2026, and there is skepticism about the data's strength.

Pelage is recruiting for phase 2 trials, showing promise for treating bald regions. The discussion highlights its potential effectiveness based on its mechanism of action.

PP405 is viewed skeptically, with some seeing it as overhyped and potentially ineffective compared to existing treatments like minoxidil and finasteride. While it shows some promise in activating dormant hair follicles, many believe it won't replace hair transplants or significantly outperform current options.

BionicBell discussed using Bimatoprost, a medication typically for eyelash growth, for hair loss and mentioned a compounding pharmacy that can mix it with other ingredients like minoxidil and finasteride. They are seeking advice on using topical finasteride for female pattern baldness and are considering a custom foam combination to maximize hair growth results.

Men with early male pattern baldness (MPB) may have hormonal abnormalities similar to those in women with PCOS. Specific treatments mentioned include Minoxidil, Finasteride, and RU58841.

The conversation discusses impressive results from a 28-day application of a hair loss treatment. Users compare it to their experiences with Minoxidil and Dutasteride, noting excitement over the new findings.

VDPHL01 shows faster and stronger hair growth compared to standard minoxidil, with no major side effects reported. Users discuss combining it with other treatments like dutasteride and finasteride for better results, while expressing skepticism about the effectiveness of PP405.

Pelage PP405 is a new hair loss treatment in trials, potentially reactivating dormant hair follicles without affecting hormones. Results are expected in February 2025, offering an alternative to minoxidil and finasteride.

PP405 shows promising results for hair growth, potentially outperforming finasteride without side effects like erectile dysfunction. Users discuss using treatments like minoxidil, pyrilutamide, nizoral, and alfatradiol while waiting for PP405's availability.

PP405 is being discussed for hair regrowth, with mixed opinions on its effectiveness and legitimacy. Some users report early signs of regrowth, while others are skeptical about its authenticity and results.

Pelage plans to conduct two Phase 3 trials for PP405, a new hair loss treatment, which may take about a year to complete. Users discuss various hair loss treatments, including pyrilutamide, minoxidil, finasteride, and clascoterone, with some expressing impatience over the lengthy trial process compared to faster drug approvals like the COVID vaccine.

The user is exploring hair loss treatments, including Patented Growth Factors (PGF) and a serum with Copper Peptide, Ceramides, Amino Acids, and Caffeine, while expressing concerns about the cost and effectiveness of PGF. They are also considering starting finasteride due to doubts about PGF's long-term viability and are seeking experiences from others who have used these treatments alongside antidepressants.

PP405 shows promise in hair loss treatment, but stem cell therapy using adipose-derived stem cells and ATP also successfully reversed androgenetic alopecia in mice. Stem cell therapy is costly, and some doubt the effectiveness of PP405 based on press releases.

The conversation discusses potential hair loss treatments, including Setipiprant, Bimatoprost, and Follicept. The user encourages signing up for Follicept, which may come to market soon.

PP405 is a new hair loss treatment in phase 2 trials that may promote hair growth by increasing lactate production and activating hair follicle stem cells. It could potentially replace hormone-disrupting treatments like Minoxidil and finasteride.

PP405 is a potential hair loss treatment showing promising early results, with hopes for market release by 2028, but skepticism remains due to inconclusive data and past disappointments with similar products. Current treatments like Minoxidil and Finasteride have side effects, leading some to anticipate PP405 as a safer alternative, though its effectiveness compared to placebo is debated.

DLQ01, a prostaglandin F2α analog, shows promise for hair growth by directly stimulating PGE2/PGF receptors without needing conversion, and can be combined with minoxidil and retinoids like tretinoin for enhanced effectiveness. Minoxidil's efficacy may be reduced by COX-1 inhibitors, but using prostaglandin analogs like Latanoprost or Bimatoprost can help maintain its effectiveness.

RU58841, an anti-androgenic compound, showed early promise for treating alopecia but faced challenges after its patent in 1997. Despite advancing to Phase II trials, safety concerns and financial struggles led Aventis to abandon its development. Proskelia, which later merged into ProStrakan, couldn't prioritize the drug, leading to its eventual stagnation and failure to reach the market.

A user reported that Procerin, containing Saw Palmetto and Pumpkin seed oil, provided similar hair thickening results as finasteride but with milder side effects. They experienced reduced libido and watery ejaculations but are adjusting the dose to minimize these effects.

The conversation discusses using a combination of redensyl, capixyl, and procapil (RCP) for hair loss, with some users also mentioning minoxidil and finasteride. Users shared mixed experiences, with some suggesting "RevivHair Max Hair Stimulating Serum" for better results, while others reported no noticeable effects from using products like The Ordinary Multi-Peptide Serum.

A peptide-based hair loss treatment, PP405, reportedly increased hair density by 62% in 90 days, but these claims are unverified and met with skepticism. Users compared PP405 to Minoxidil and Finasteride, expressing doubts about its effectiveness without more evidence.

The user is applying topical finasteride with stemoxydine for hair loss and has noticed hair thickening but no regrowth after two months. They also report high SHBG and prolactin levels and a lack of morning erections, even on low doses of medication.

The conversation discusses experiences with PTD-DBM for hair loss treatment. It also mentions using Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841.

Norwood 7 hair loss is often excluded from trials to ensure treatments appear more effective and to reduce costs. Some believe treatments effective for Norwood 5 could work on Norwood 7, but companies prioritize market readiness.

Hope Medicine's HMI-115 is expected to be released in 2027, with phase 3 trials currently recruiting. Concerns include the safety of targeting prolactin and the potential cost of the treatment.

PP405 is discussed as a potential hair loss treatment, with doubts about its effectiveness and availability. Users mention using finasteride and minoxidil, and express concerns about PP405's cost and market release.

PP405 and GT20029 are new hair loss treatments with different mechanisms from traditional options like Minoxidil and Finasteride. PP405 targets hair follicle stem cells to reactivate growth, while GT20029 works as an androgen receptor deleter, both requiring ongoing use for effectiveness.