Pyrilutimide, a treatment for hair loss; it's effectiveness compared to other treatments such as Finasteride and RU58841; and some users’ experiences with the treatment.
This conversation discusses the advancements in treatments for hair loss, including finasteride, dutasteride, minoxidil and new promising treatments such as pyrilutamide and verteporfin. Other treatments discussed were taking minoxidil orally, tretinoin to turn non-responders into responders and microneedling to further boost growth.
A 24 year old male struggling with the physical and mental effects of balding, being short, and having a micropenis. Suggested treatments include taking medications such as finasteride and minoxidil, lifting weights, and trying not to compare himself to others.
The conversation discusses the side effects of finasteride, including low libido and erectile dysfunction, and the possibility of these effects being permanent, known as post-finasteride syndrome (PFS). Some users report personal experiences with PFS and debate whether the condition is real, with varying opinions on the reversibility of side effects and the role of individual biology.
The conversation humorously discusses the fictional "Post PP405 Syndrome" and the idea of starting a foundation or cult around it. It mentions skepticism about the effectiveness of PP405 and jokes about future therapies.
Post Finasteride Syndrome (PFS) is debated, with some users reporting severe side effects from finasteride, while others believe these effects are rare or psychosomatic. Treatments discussed include finasteride, minoxidil, and RU58841.
The post argues that Post-Finasteride Syndrome (PFS) is likely not real and suggests symptoms may be due to mental health issues or the nocebo effect. The conversation includes personal experiences with finasteride, highlighting both positive and negative effects, and emphasizes consulting doctors and using reliable sources for medication.
Finasteride users discuss potential side effects, including Post Finasteride Syndrome (PFS), with varying opinions on its legitimacy and impact. Some users report side effects like changes in semen consistency and reduced pre-ejaculate, while others emphasize the rarity and reversibility of side effects.
A user experienced severe side effects from finasteride, including mental health issues and physical symptoms, and sought advice on managing post-finasteride syndrome. Suggestions included checking vitamin levels, considering dopamine agonists, and avoiding further psychiatric medications.
A user initially had side effects from finasteride, attributed them to anxiety and the nocebo effect, and after resuming the drug, experienced positive effects and now warns against misinformation about Post Finasteride Syndrome.
The user recovered from Post-Finasteride Syndrome (PFS) using a specific hormone protocol after trying finasteride and dutasteride. They now help others with PFS by reviewing blood work and offering personalized advice.
P5P supplementation helped reverse finasteride side effects, particularly by lowering prolactin levels and restoring sensitivity. The user experienced significant improvement within a day and full recovery in a few days.
A user experienced severe testicular pain after two weeks on oral finasteride. Another user suggested that while rare, this side effect can occur and recommended considering topical finasteride if the pain persists.
Finasteride is used for hair loss, with mixed reports of no side effects and claims of long-term negative effects known as Post Finasteride Syndrome (PFS). The conversation debates the existence and causes of PFS, with differing opinions on whether it is psychological or real.
A user reports persistent sexual side effects three months after stopping finasteride, despite a healthy lifestyle and supplements. They express concern over the lack of libido and infrequent erections.
Post Finasteride Syndrome (PFS) may result from epigenetic changes and gut microbiota alterations. Supplementing with Allopregnanolone might protect against these adverse effects.
The user experienced bladder and prostate discomfort after taking finasteride and stopped the medication, but symptoms returned upon resuming at a lower dose. The doctor suggested trying dutasteride as an alternative.
Female with PCOS experiences receding and thinning hair, wants dutasteride instead of spironolactone. Discusses desire to reduce DHT without losing libido.
The user has been taking finasteride for nearly two months and has noticed an increased urge to urinate with slight discomfort. They are questioning if this side effect is temporary.
The conversation is about the debate over the existence of Post-Finasteride Syndrome (PFS) and its symptoms, with some users skeptical about PFS and others discussing side effects like erectile dysfunction and gynecomastia from hair loss treatments like finasteride. Specific treatments mentioned include finasteride, viagra, and a joke about using a popsicle stick for erectile support.
Pyrilutamide is seen as a last hope for those who can't take finasteride, with promising results reported. However, there's uncertainty about the quality and consistency of Pyrilutamide from black market sources.
Saw palmetto, a 5-alpha reductase inhibitor, caused unexpected side effects like breast changes and altered semen consistency, which resolved after stopping its use. Concerns about similar side effects with finasteride or dutasteride were expressed, and another user reported low libido and depression from saw palmetto.
A user experienced a "watery belly" and cellulite after starting finasteride, despite maintaining a disciplined fitness routine. Others suggest checking hormone levels, as changes in DHT and estrogen could affect fat metabolism, but age might also be a factor.
User experienced hair thickening with pyri but also side effects like reduced sex drive. Stopping pyri and returning to CB restored sex drive, suggesting pyri may go systemic or be incorrectly formulated.
Finasteride is not linked to a 60% risk of persistent sexual dysfunction; this figure applies only to those already experiencing sexual issues. Most users do not have side effects, and the study's methodology is criticized for selection bias.
User asks if spironolactone can stack with finasteride and pyrilutamide for hair loss treatment. They question why spironolactone is associated with feminizing effects, while RU/pyri/fluridil, which work similarly, are not.
Pyrilutamide's effectiveness is questioned due to overstated claims and previous trial ineffectiveness, with some users opting for finasteride instead. Despite skepticism, some consider adding pyrilutamide to their regimen alongside treatments like bicalutamide.
PP405's phase 2a trial results were presented, focusing on safety and pharmacokinetics, with a future meeting planned to share the full dataset. The trial includes a randomized controlled portion and an open-label extension, with no indication of phase 2B completion.