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The conversation is about the effectiveness and production of GT20029, a drug being developed as a topical androgen receptor degrader for hair loss, and whether it can fully degrade androgen receptors or only partially. It also discusses the drug's potential unique working mechanism and synthesis by a company called Anagen.

People are discussing hair loss treatments, including pyrilutamide, minoxidil, dutasteride, alfatradiol, and bimatoprost. Users share their experiences and side effects, noting that pyrilutamide is considered more effective and safer than RU58841.

PP405 shows promise for hair growth with significant results after 4 weeks, but skepticism exists due to its unavailability. Some users are hopeful for its potential, while others express concerns about side effects and market release delays.

Topical finasteride may have higher systemic absorption and lower efficacy when using a Propylene Glycol/Ethanol formulation compared to the hydroxypropyl chitosan (HPCH) formulation. The safety profile of topical finasteride relies heavily on the HPCH formulation, and using standard solutions might lead to different pharmacokinetics.

The conversation discusses positive initial trial results for GT20029, a topical compound for hair loss that degrades androgen receptors, potentially requiring only weekly application. Participants express hope for this treatment to be more effective and convenient than current options like Minoxidil, Finasteride, and RU58841.

A sugar gel called 2-deoxy-D-ribose (2dDR) shows potential for promoting hair regrowth by increasing blood supply to hair follicles, similar to Minoxidil, but its effectiveness in humans is unproven. It may benefit those who don't tolerate Minoxidil, but it is not a replacement for treatments like Finasteride or RU58841.

Veradermics' phase 2 trial of slow-release oral minoxidil shows promising hair regrowth with minimized side effects, gaining significant attention and funding. PP405 is also noted for its potential as a side-effect-free alternative.

Results for PP405 are expected next year, with concerns about its pricing and potential black market availability. Some users believe it may be slightly more effective than finasteride and dutasteride, and combining it with treatments like minoxidil and microneedling could be beneficial.

A user is considering ordering topical finasteride with castor and rosemary oil from a Turkish pharmacy. They are debating whether to include the oils or use only PG and ethanol as the carrier.

User tried oral finasteride, topical finasteride, topical dutasteride, and RU58841 but experienced side effects. They discuss upcoming treatments like clascoterone, pyrilutamide, gt20029, and KY19382 as potential options.

Pyrilutamide, a new hair loss product with the potential to be more effective than RU58841 and safer than CB, but expensive.

PP405 shows promise in stimulating new terminal hair growth by activating dormant follicles, with no systemic adverse effects observed in a short-term trial. However, long-term efficacy remains unproven, and further trials are needed to confirm its potential as a hair loss treatment.

New hair loss treatments PP405 and VDPHL01 are discussed with skepticism and hope, alongside existing treatments like minoxidil and finasteride. Users express frustration over limited progress since the 1980s but remain cautiously optimistic.

The user has been using finasteride for hair loss and is considering adding RU58841. They ask about RU58841's effectiveness, potential heart side effects, duration of action, dosage increase over time, transitioning to GT20029, and where to find the liquid form.

The conversation is about the potential availability of GT20029 on the black market and whether users would try it. Participants advise waiting for phase 3 trial results to ensure safety and efficacy.

The conversation discusses hair loss treatment options, focusing on finasteride and its potential effects on gynecomastia. The user is considering finasteride while managing hormone levels with supplements like boron, vitamin D, zinc, magnesium, and P5P, and is advised to consult an endocrinologist for further evaluation.

RU58841, a potential hair loss treatment, was not commercialized due to marketability issues and lack of long-term safety data. Concerns about its formulation and delivery methods further complicate its use.

RU58841, an anti-androgenic compound, showed early promise for treating alopecia but faced challenges after its patent in 1997. Despite advancing to Phase II trials, safety concerns and financial struggles led Aventis to abandon its development. Proskelia, which later merged into ProStrakan, couldn't prioritize the drug, leading to its eventual stagnation and failure to reach the market.

The conversation discusses Peptonix microneedling, a copper peptide serum, as a potential hair loss treatment. Users compare it to finasteride and minoxidil, noting side effects and personal experiences with these treatments.

The conversation discusses potential new treatments for androgenetic alopecia (AGA), including verteporfin, pyrilutamide, and hair cloning. There is optimism about scientific advancements providing alternatives to minoxidil and finasteride.

A user's experience with the Big 3 (minoxidil, finasteride and RU58841) hair loss treatment along with dermarolling. The dermaroller pin was 1.5mm used once per week and drew some blood but not a lot.

The conversation discusses GT20029, a drug in Phase II trials that targets androgen receptors with minimal systemic effects, and TDM-105795, a growth stimulant with a different mechanism than minoxidil that may revive papilla stem cells. Both are potential new treatments for hair loss.

Hair loss may be linked to the TRPS1 gene and protein, not just DHT. Amplifica's AMP-303 targets mesenchymal stem cells and shows promise in treating hair loss, unlike Pelage's PP405.

Combining topical finasteride with RU58841 for hair loss treatment. Users discuss the effectiveness and potential side effects of oral and topical finasteride.

The user has been using oral finasteride for over a year and recently added GHK-CU for two months, seeing progress but seeking further improvement, especially on the hairline. They discuss sourcing GHK-CU, its effects, and the importance of third-party testing, while considering additional treatments like dutasteride and hair transplants for better results.

Breezula's phase 3 results are expected soon, with discussions on the effectiveness of androgen receptor antagonists like spironolactone and the potential of GT20029. Users express skepticism about new treatments and discuss the complexities of male pattern baldness, often relying on finasteride despite its side effects.

Hair loss treatment includes Minoxidil, Derma Rolling, PRP, Saw Palmetto, Vitamin D, and Pyri. After one month, Pyri caused penis numbness, tiredness, and reduced hair fall, but user stopped due to side effects.

The user switched from minoxidil to a homemade 2-deoxy-d-ribose gel and noticed no hair fall after two weeks, despite stopping minoxidil. The gel includes water, 2-deoxy-d-ribose, vegetable glycerine, 2-phenoxyethanol, sodium alginate, and rosemary oil, and the user reports healthier-feeling hair.

GT20029 is anticipated to start phase III trials in Q3 2026, with potential public availability around 2029-2030.

Using PP405 and Clascoterone after a hair transplant may not cause issues if the transplant didn't achieve native density, but could lead to competition for blood supply if it did. Some users suggest waiting for these drugs to be available, as they might not significantly impact blood supply or regrowth.