Blocking DHT may slow down aging and improve skin, with users reporting positive effects from finasteride. Minoxidil and RU58841 are also mentioned as treatments.
The conversation discusses the need for a localized 5-alpha reductase inhibitor that only affects the scalp without systemic side effects, similar to pyrilutamide's approach. Current treatments like topical liposomal finasteride and dutasteride are mentioned, but concerns about their systemic effects and lack of research are highlighted.
A 19-year-old concerned about long-term effects of 5AR inhibitors on physical appearance. They have used finasteride and plan to try dutasteride or RU58841; responses suggest improved skin, hair, and confidence.
RU58841 is a strong non-steroidal antiandrogen for hair loss but may cause cardiovascular issues in some users. Alternatives like Pyrilutamide and Breezula are suggested due to better safety profiles and lower systemic risks.
The conversation is about adding crushed bicalutamide or spironolactone to a topical mix with finasteride and minoxidil to suppress testosterone in hair follicles, similar to what RU58841 does. The user cannot obtain RU58841 in their country and is seeking advice on this alternative approach for hair loss treatment.
Salicylic acid in Nioxin shampoo may reduce minoxidil effectiveness by inhibiting sulfotransferase activity, potentially causing hair loss. Users suggest stopping salicylic acid use or trying alternative treatments like high-concentration tretinoin or medicated minoxidil/finasteride shampoos.
Pyrilutamide and RU58841 are androgen receptor antagonists that block receptors without significantly reducing testosterone or DHT levels. Any indirect effect on androgen levels is likely negligible.
Low-dose daily aspirin reduces the effectiveness of topical minoxidil in treating androgenetic alopecia. Aspirin inhibits sulfotransferase enzymes, which are necessary for minoxidil to work.
Minoxidil may inhibit androgen receptors and affect hormonal pathways, potentially explaining its effectiveness in treating androgenetic alopecia (AGA). Users discuss its varying effectiveness on scalp versus facial hair and note fewer side effects with topical use compared to oral.
Topical androgen receptor antagonists may not be necessary if 5-AR inhibitors like finasteride or dutasteride effectively reduce DHT levels. Combining a 5-AR inhibitor with a topical androgen antagonist could potentially enhance treatment, but oral use of androgen antagonists is too risky due to severe side effects.
RU and Pyri block androgen receptors to prevent hair loss but may also hinder hair regrowth since they prevent testosterone, which can stimulate hair growth, from binding to these receptors. The user is questioning if this understanding is correct.
Rapamycin, finasteride, and minoxidil are discussed as a strategy for hair loss prevention and reversal. Pulsed dosing of rapamycin is suggested to avoid conflicting effects with minoxidil.
Topical pirfenidone is highlighted as an effective anti-inflammatory and anti-fibrotic treatment for hair loss, particularly in addressing perifollicular fibrosis, which may enhance the effectiveness of standard treatments like finasteride and minoxidil. The user also uses calcipotriol, MCT oil, ciclopirox shampoo, and benzoyl peroxide shampoo as part of their regimen.
User discusses group buy for finerenone, a third-gen mineralocorticoid antagonist for hair loss treatment. Finerenone inhibits TGFb, NOX, and ROS, and improves renal and cardiac function; topical dose should be no more than 10mg per day.
The conversation discusses whether using pyrilutamide would interfere with minoxidil's ability to regrow hair, considering pyrilutamide is seen as a maintenance drug that stops shedding, while minoxidil promotes hair growth but causes initial shedding.
Using licorice to counteract the blood pressure-lowering effects of oral minoxidil. Concerns about licorice affecting potassium levels and minoxidil's effectiveness were raised.
Minoxidil may age skin by slowing collagen synthesis, but using collagen peptides and a basic skincare routine might counteract this. Foam minoxidil could reduce systemic absorption and avoid alcohol-related side effects.
Rosemary extract showed high inhibitory activity against DHT, similar to finasteride and dutasteride, but the conversation includes skepticism about its effectiveness in humans since the study was done on mice and rosemary oil is often considered ineffective based on personal experiences. Some suggest trying rosemary oil alongside other treatments, while others emphasize the difference between the extract used in the study and the oil.
Fluridil is hard to obtain and only available in Slovakia and Czechia, with no systemic side effects but possibly limited effectiveness compared to finasteride. The original poster is using finasteride and minoxidil without success and is considering trying fluridil despite its cost.
Hair loss treatments discussed include Minoxidil, Finasteride, and RU58841. HMI-115, a monoclonal antibody drug, is in phase 1 and 2 trials for different conditions, but its availability on the gray market is unlikely due to high production costs.
Alternatives to finasteride for hair loss include minoxidil, alfatrodial, fluridil, pyrilutamide, and Nizoral. These treatments may not be as effective as finasteride but can help slow hair loss progression.
The conversation is about comparing the effectiveness of fluridil and clascoterone in preventing hair loss and inquiring about their use as standalone treatments. There is a question about the concentration of the fluridil brand for efficacy.
GT20029 and pyrilutamide are both androgen antagonists but work differently; GT20029 degrades the androgen receptor, while pyrilutamide blocks DHT from binding. GT20029 is expected to have similar efficacy to CosmeRNA.
The conversation discusses skepticism about group buys for hair loss treatments, highlighting issues with unverified chemicals and the risks involved. It suggests stabilizing with dutasteride and minoxidil, and considering a hair transplant instead of experimenting with untested products.
Stopping antihistamines may resolve neurological side effects when using finasteride. Users experienced muscle aches, headaches, and lethargy when combining the two.
The conversation discusses the variability in effectiveness of medications, including finasteride, and questions whether different manufacturers impact results. The user suggests sharing successful brands to help others identify effective options.
The phase 3 trial results for Pyrilutamide showed no significant difference from the control treatment in increasing hair count, leading to the company halting its development. Users discussed their disappointment and skepticism about hair loss treatments, with some mentioning other treatments like Minoxidil, Finasteride, and RU58841.
ABS-201, a prolactin receptor blocker, shows promise in reversing hair loss and graying, with early success in macaques. Current treatments like finasteride, minoxidil, and RU58841 are still widely used, but new options like PP405 are eagerly anticipated.
Imidazole drugs like ketoconazole inhibit certain enzymes and prevent DHT from binding to SHBG, increasing free DHT in the bloodstream, which may contribute to balding. The discussion questions how these drugs help with hair loss despite this effect.