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Mixing RU58841 with cetosomal minoxidil is discussed due to scalp irritation from ethanol PG vehicles. A mixture of the two turned bright pink when left to dry.

The conversation discusses the delay in the PP405 Phase 2 study results, now expected by the end of 2025, and skepticism about research practices. There is also mention of optimism for Amplifica's AMP303 and a topical treatment in early testing.

Some users of RU-58841 report cardiovascular symptoms like heart palpitations and chest tightness, which may be linked to its metabolites causing lung disease. The safety of RU-58841 is uncertain due to lack of long-term data and concerns about product purity, especially from gray market sources.

The conversation discusses concerns about RU58841 degrading when exposed to light and transferring pyri to a dark glass bottle to prevent this. The user keeps the pyri out for only two minutes before storing it in a dark place.

The user experienced severe hair shedding despite using oral finasteride, minoxidil, dutasteride, and RU58841, and was diagnosed with Non-Alcoholic Fatty Liver Disease (NAFLD). They are considering switching to topical treatments due to the ineffectiveness of their current regimen.

The conversation is about a person using dutasteride and minoxidil for hair loss, considering adding RU58841 and PP405 for more density. They are seeking advice on using these treatments and exploring other options like GT20029.

The conversation discusses using topical finasteride with propylene glycol, which causes scalp dryness or dandruff. The user also uses Nizoral, Nioxin, and DHT oil, and considers using a scalp conditioner to alleviate dryness.

The conversation is about using distilled water as a solvent for topical finasteride to reduce systemic absorption. The user is considering avoiding ethanol and propylene glycol to achieve this.

The FDA warned that topical finasteride can cause serious side effects like sexual dysfunction and brain fog, similar to oral finasteride. Compounded topical formulations pose additional risks due to lack of regulation.

A user is seeking a titanium dioxide-free finasteride pill due to health concerns. They have not found a suitable supplier yet.

PP405 from Everychem is likely fake and potentially harmful, with concerns about its stability and the risk of using the wrong MPC inhibitor, which could damage hair follicles. The real PP405 was studied under strict conditions, and DIY attempts are discouraged due to unknown formulation and quality control.

The user seeks alternatives to Propylene Glycol (PG) for delivering topical finasteride due to scalp irritation. They consider using Propanediol 1,3 and ask for other suggestions.

Long-term use of finasteride and dutasteride may be linked to health risks like fatty liver disease, insulin resistance, type 2 diabetes, dry eye disease, and potential kidney disease. Some users believe the risks are low and the medications are generally safe.

The release of a study on 5a-reductase inhibitors (finasteride and dutasteride) which showed an increased risk of depression, dementia, decreased libido, and reduced semen load as potential side effects; discussion around other forms of hair loss treatments such as topical minoxidil, RU58841, or opting to accept baldness; and advice to consider professional help for deeper issues related to hair loss.

The conversation discusses the lack of public information on the chemical structure of PP405, a hair loss treatment, and the challenges of synthesizing it without a patent. It also explores a patent related to hydrogen-based topical formulations for reducing oxidative stress and inflammation.

PP405 might make minoxidil unnecessary, but finasteride or other 5AR inhibitors may still be needed. PP405 is expected to be expensive and not available until at least 2028, with limited information on its effectiveness.

Oral PTD-DBM was discussed as a potential hair loss treatment, but it was deemed ineffective in humans despite promising results in mice. The conversation concluded that trying it without VPA might be unwise.

Finasteride users discuss potential side effects, including Post Finasteride Syndrome (PFS), with varying opinions on its legitimacy and impact. Some users report side effects like changes in semen consistency and reduced pre-ejaculate, while others emphasize the rarity and reversibility of side effects.

PP405 is expected to be on the market between 2027 and 2030, with phase 3 trials starting in 2026. There is skepticism about its fast-tracking due to its cosmetic nature, and it may appear on the gray market sooner.

The user is experiencing an allergic reaction to propylene glycol in Kirkland minoxidil and is considering switching to a foam version or a low-PG minoxidil solution. They are also contemplating oral minoxidil but are concerned about its long-term safety.

PP405's phase 2a trial results were presented, focusing on safety and pharmacokinetics, with a future meeting planned to share the full dataset. The trial includes a randomized controlled portion and an open-label extension, with no indication of phase 2B completion.

Stopping finasteride may reduce water retention or alter fat distribution, leading to a leaner face. Hormonal changes, like reduced DHT or increased estrogen, could cause these effects.

Concerns about a potential ban on finasteride and dutasteride due to side effects, with users advocating for continued access and informed choice. Alternative treatments like pyrilutamide are also mentioned.

PP405 is a potential hair loss treatment that inhibits mitochondrial pyruvate carriers, increasing lactate dehydrogenase activity and stimulating hair follicle stem cells. In a phase 1 trial, 31% of participants showed over 20% hair density increase with PP405 treatment.

Pelage secured $120 million for PP405, a non-hormonal topical hair loss treatment, sparking debate on its potential as a breakthrough. Concerns about finasteride's side effects persist, with some suggesting alternatives like topical finasteride or dutasteride.