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A peptide from Japanese water chestnut fruit may help with hair loss by suppressing DHT's effect on hair follicle cell death, potentially serving as a finasteride alternative. The treatment's effectiveness and safety in humans remain uncertain.

Actifolic's RU58841 and Pyri products are perceived as ineffective, with users reporting no side effects or improvements, suggesting possible quality issues. Users recommend alternative sources and emphasize the importance of timing when using RU58841 with Minoxidil.

The user reports progress in hair regrowth using topical finasteride/minoxidil, microneedling, topical dutasteride, latanoprost, and MSM supplements. They express frustration over the lack of interaction on progress posts compared to trivial topics.

RU58841, an anti-androgenic compound, showed early promise for treating alopecia but faced challenges after its patent in 1997. Despite advancing to Phase II trials, safety concerns and financial struggles led Aventis to abandon its development. Proskelia, which later merged into ProStrakan, couldn't prioritize the drug, leading to its eventual stagnation and failure to reach the market.

A South Korean company, Therazyne, has developed a promising hair loss treatment using a WNT chain surrogate that binds to Frizzled 7, with human follicle testing expected soon. Current treatments like minoxidil and finasteride are not seen as cures, and while optimism exists for future solutions like PP405, approval processes are lengthy.

The conversation discusses the lack of public information on the chemical structure of PP405, a hair loss treatment, and the challenges of synthesizing it without a patent. It also explores a patent related to hydrogen-based topical formulations for reducing oxidative stress and inflammation.

Lichen Planopilaris (LPP), a form of permanent hair loss, which can be mistaken for seborrheic dermatitis and is characterized by scalp itching, burning, redness, and dandruff. Treatment options discussed include steroidal creams, finasteride, minoxidil, and RU58841.

The conversation discusses using microneedling with growth factor serum, PRF injections, dutasteride, oral and topical minoxidil, and topical exosomes to treat hair loss, particularly on the crown. OP plans to microneedle twice a month and seeks feedback on Korean growth factor serums.

Using finasteride and peptides, including GHK-Cu, improved hair thickness and regrowth. The user also used a KLOW blend and CJC/IPA for better sleep and recovery.

The user is unsure if their hair thinning is due to fungal infection/inflammation or genetic factors and is hesitant to start Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841. They are currently using Ketoconazole 2% and triamcinolone acetonide and are concerned about potential side effects from other medications.

Kintor Pharmaceutical's Phase 2 results with the drug Pyrilutamide, a potential alternative to 5-ARI drugs like Finasteride and Dutasteride but without the side effects. It could be used in combination with other topical treatments such as Minoxidil. The safety of the drug has been demonstrated in 6 months of use, however there are still questions about long term efficacy and systemic absorption.

The conversation discusses DIY cosmetic procedures like PRP, mesotherapy, and micro-needling, with some users experimenting with Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841 for hair loss. It highlights a community of mostly older women performing these treatments themselves.

Follicopeptide (FOL005) by Coegin Pharma will launch as a cosmetic hair growth treatment by Q2 2025, showing similar efficacy to finasteride. Users discuss the benefits and skepticism of releasing hair loss treatments as cosmetics rather than drugs.

The conversation discusses the potential of Verteporfin, an FDA-approved drug, for hair loss treatment, particularly in combination with microneedling or PRP. Users express hope and curiosity about its application, while some remain cautious due to the need for more extensive testing.

Verteporfin may improve hair transplant outcomes and reduce scarring, potentially allowing patients to avoid finasteride. Dr. Barghouthi seeks collaborations, volunteers, and financial support for research on verteporfin.org.

User discusses verteporfin for hair regrowth through "super microneedling" and preventing scarring. They mention a case of an old man regrowing hair after a head injury and suggest verteporfin could recreate this result.

A 35 year old male who has seen good results from Finasteride and microneedling, with minimal side effects. Replies to the post ask about the device used for microneedling, discuss the progress made, and offer encouragement.

The user convinced their trichologist to prescribe topical finasteride after using topical estradiol and progesterone for hair maintenance. They also discussed the potential impact of "nofap" on hair loss, noting that abstaining for about four months seemed to reduce shedding.

The user discusses using Follics FR5, FR10, and FR15, which combine Minoxidil, Adenosine, Procapil, Azelaic acid, and Procyanidin B2, to address hair loss. They have previously used Minoxidil, Finasteride, and Dutasteride with varying success.

PP405 is a potential hair loss treatment undergoing trials, with discussions on its effectiveness and comparison to existing treatments like finasteride and minoxidil. There is skepticism about its status as a cure, with hopes for future advancements in genetic treatments like CRISPR.

The user is anxious about potential side effects of finasteride, particularly PFS, and is considering reinstating it for hair loss treatment. They experienced anxiety-induced side effects previously and are seeking advice on overcoming their fear of restarting finasteride.

BPC-157 may promote hair growth by increasing angiogenesis, similar to how Minoxidil works, though no direct research confirms this yet. Users report combining BPC-157 with Minoxidil and finasteride for better results, but concerns about long-term safety exist.

The conversation discusses that dutasteride may be more effective than finasteride for frontal hair loss due to higher 5ar Type 1 enzyme activity in that area. Some users question the validity of this information, while others confirm it with additional sources.

After nearly four months on finasteride, a user noticed improved hair quality but developed nipple puffiness, suggesting early signs of gynecomastia. They considered switching to other treatments like CB-03-01 or RU58841 and contemplated consulting an endocrinologist about aromatase inhibitors.

The conversation discusses using a multimodal approach to treat androgenic alopecia, including substances like gamma-linolenic acid, DHA, sulforaphane, melatonin, cetirizine, astaxanthin, fisetin, apigenin, curcumin, limonene, genistein, and berberine. Users also mention using ketoconazole, minoxidil, and low-level laser therapy (LLLT) as part of their hair loss treatment regimens.

New product Tomorrowlabs HSF targets hair loss through HIF pathway indirectly by removing scalp iron. Minoxidil and Stemoxydine also relate to HIF pathway.

RU58841 worsened hair condition, causing thinning and unusual patterns. The user stopped using it two months ago but hasn't seen recovery, and there's speculation about androgen receptor upregulation.

The user reported positive hair regrowth after 11 months on finasteride and 4 months of microneedling. Opinions in the conversation vary, with some endorsing microneedling as effective and others emphasizing finasteride as essential, while acknowledging that treatments may not work for everyone.

Various hair growth treatments were discussed, including microneedling, bimatoprost, setipiprant, stemoxydine, PGE2, CB-03-01, WNT Beta-Catenin upregulators, KY19382, topical estrogen, IGF-1, GH, MK-677, oral castor oil, fisetin, resveratrol, cetrizine, and lactic acid. Users shared experiences and sources for these treatments, with some expressing interest in topical solutions and others noting the lack of FDA approval or scientific evidence for certain options.

The conversation discusses the use of microneedling for hair loss, with concerns about potential long-term effects like fibrosis and scarring. Users share experiences and opinions on combining microneedling with treatments like minoxidil and finasteride, but there is uncertainty about the long-term safety and efficacy.