The conversation discusses alternative and unorthodox hair loss treatments, including RU58841, nandrolone, and dianabol, as well as theoretical approaches involving high doses of estrogen and selective estrogen receptor modulators. These methods are considered extreme and potentially harmful but are explored for those unable to tolerate traditional 5-alpha reductase inhibitors.
The user is taking 0.5mg finasteride and 0.5mg Loniten orally daily, using Eucapil twice weekly, and Minoxidil foam once daily for hair loss. They believe Eucapil effectively stops hair loss despite side effects like breast growth.
Pyrilutamide, a potential hair loss treatment that has recently been released for sale, and is thought to have similar efficacy to Dutasteride without side effects. It was discussed in terms of its effectiveness compared to Finasteride, its use by females, and whether it can be safely mixed with RU58841.
RU58841, an anti-androgenic compound, showed early promise for treating alopecia but faced challenges after its patent in 1997. Despite advancing to Phase II trials, safety concerns and financial struggles led Aventis to abandon its development. Proskelia, which later merged into ProStrakan, couldn't prioritize the drug, leading to its eventual stagnation and failure to reach the market.
Concerns about a potential ban on finasteride and dutasteride due to side effects, with users advocating for continued access and informed choice. Alternative treatments like pyrilutamide are also mentioned.
The conversation is about using RU58841 for hair loss, discussing the stability of the powder form and the need for a carrier solution like KB or PG + ethanol. The user is advised to mix RU58841 with stemoxydine and store it properly, while also considering safety precautions.
The user is considering adding RU58841 to liquid minoxidil without propylene glycol (PG) due to an allergy and is asking if this combination is effective and if PG is necessary. They have been using finasteride and minoxidil foam, plan to use RU58841 with liquid minoxidil in the evening, and continue finasteride.
The user applied 0.005% topical finasteride, minoxidil, tretinoin, caffeine, and ketoconazole shampoo for four months but saw no hair regrowth. Some users suggested increasing the finasteride dose or trying alternative treatments like clascoterone, pyrilutamide, or RU58841.
The user is regrowing hair while using steroids by following a regimen that includes Rogaine, RU58841, Dutasteride, Nizoral, PGE2, and occasionally castor oil. Despite using harsh steroids like Tren, Masteron, and Proviron, the user reports successful hair regrowth.
The user halted hair loss using 0.01% topical liposomal finasteride daily, with no side effects or regrowth, and recently added 5% minoxidil and low-level laser therapy. They recommend this conservative approach for those hesitant about finasteride.
The conversation is about a 20-year-old male considering a topical gel combining finasteride, minoxidil, and tretinoin for hair loss, looking to replace his daily minoxidil with this new treatment. He has seen good regrowth with minoxidil but is nervous about starting finasteride.
A 33-year-old male restarted finasteride after stopping it to conceive, noticing hair loss, especially in the crown area. His current routine includes finasteride, minoxidil, ketoconazole, and microneedling, and he plans to continue this treatment for 18 months before making any major changes.
The user has been using finasteride, minoxidil, retinoid, and occasional microneedling for hair loss with good results. They recently added stemoxydine, which improved their hair further, and suggest trying it, especially in the EU where it's easily available.
A 16-year-old is experiencing hair loss and is using minoxidil, finasteride, and plans to add RU58841, while considering other treatments like MK-677 and microneedling. Concerns are raised about the potential impact of these treatments on puberty and development.
People are discussing the use of an untested hair loss treatment called PP405, which is not available on the grey market. Some users are trying a mimic formulation called HP3, reporting thicker hair but no new growth yet.
Hair follicle stem cells remain in bald individuals, but progenitor cells do not, raising questions about hair regrowth claims by Pelage. PP405 is discussed as a potential treatment, with skepticism about its effectiveness compared to existing treatments like Minoxidil and Finasteride.
A user in Poland created a homemade "oral topical minoxidil" using 2% topical minoxidil, propylene glycol, and vodka due to difficulty obtaining oral minoxidil. They shared a recipe and sought feedback, emphasizing caution and safety in dosing.
User explores no-finasteride hair loss treatments, considering compounds like Minoxidil, Eucapil, Alfatradiol, Stemoxydeine, Azelaic Acid, Retinol, and Ketoconazole Shampoo. They ask about mixing compounds, application schedules, and potential side effects.
Hair loss discussion includes finasteride intolerance and questioning if Pyrilutamide is an alternative. Pyrilutamide not commercially available, but may be tolerable if approved since it's not a 5aR inhibitor.
A user is considering adding PRP and mesotherapy to their hair loss treatment and is deciding between two options: Promoitalia, which contains Phosphatidic acid, Riboflavin, and Superoxide dismutase, and the more expensive Melsmon, a human placenta derivative. They seek advice on which option to choose based on effectiveness and scientific backing.
RU58841 powder is mixed with a 70% ethanol and 30% propylene glycol solution, with some users seeking PG-free alternatives. Minoxidil is also mentioned as a treatment option.
A dermatologist prescribed a topical hair loss treatment containing finasteride, biotin, melatonin, and caffeine without alcohol. The user is skeptical about its effectiveness.
Finasteride may affect neurosteroids, impacting mood and sexual function, with varied user experiences. Some report side effects like depression and sexual dysfunction, while others find it effective for hair retention or prefer alternatives like Dutasteride or topical treatments.
A user started using homemade topical finasteride with PG-free liquid minoxidil for hair loss. They noticed the solution became milky with floaters and asked if it needed filtering.
The conversation is about finding providers for Dutasteride Mesotherapy in the US, which is more common in Europe. The user is asking if any mesotherapy/PRP clinic could offer it if they provide the Dutasteride.
The user shared progress after two months using a topical formulation containing Dutasteride 0.25%, Minoxidil 5%, Cetirizine 1%, Melatonin 0.5%, Caffeine 2%, and Latanoprost 0.005%. The focus is on hair loss treatment results.
The conversation discusses using a 0.1% topical finasteride solution twice daily after experiencing brain fog from oral finasteride. A user suggests trying the solution once daily for a few months if concerned.
VDPHL-01 is essentially a slow-release oral minoxidil, which is already known to work for hair growth. The formulation includes other ingredients like Medrogestone, Valproic acid, Setipiprant, and Cetirizine, but their effectiveness and necessity are questioned.