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Mixing RU58841 with cetosomal minoxidil is discussed due to scalp irritation from ethanol PG vehicles. A mixture of the two turned bright pink when left to dry.

New treatments for AGA are emerging, including pyrilutumide, gt0029, scube3, kx-826, and pp405. Verteporfin is mentioned as a promising option.

The user is seeking advice on sourcing finasteride, dutasteride, and minoxidil, as their doctors are unwilling to prescribe both finasteride/dutasteride and minoxidil simultaneously. They are also looking for sources of GHK-Cu and RU58841 in the USA, with suggestions including using services like Hims, ro.co, and Musely.

Minoxidil non-responders may benefit from using minoxidil sulfate due to reduced sulfotransferase activity in their scalps. Users are encouraged to share their experiences with minoxidil sulfate.

The conversation discusses the potential benefits of adding Vitamin B6 (P-5-P) to topical hair loss treatments like RU58841, finasteride, or minoxidil. The user suggests that Vitamin B6 might enhance these treatments by naturally lowering scalp prolactin.

A user suggests making a potent sulforaphane topical to degrade DHT and promote hair growth. Another user notes that sulforaphane's low molecular weight might also lower systemic DHT.

Topical pirfenidone is highlighted as an effective anti-inflammatory and anti-fibrotic treatment for hair loss, particularly in addressing perifollicular fibrosis, which may enhance the effectiveness of standard treatments like finasteride and minoxidil. The user also uses calcipotriol, MCT oil, ciclopirox shampoo, and benzoyl peroxide shampoo as part of their regimen.

The user has been using finasteride, minoxidil, and needling for 11 months with limited progress and plans to add sulforaphane for 3 months. Another user suggested trying Procyanidin B2 for better results.

Combining Minoxidil with peptide serums like Redensyl, Procapil, and Capixyl is more effective for hair growth than using Minoxidil alone, increasing hair density and thickness. However, some users are skeptical about the effectiveness of peptides, suggesting other ingredients or factors might contribute to the results.

A user is seeing good results with RU58841 for hair loss, noting reduced shedding and thicker hair. They plan to use pumpkin seed oil as a solvent to avoid water content, which they believe reduces the effectiveness of anti-androgens.

User asks if HMI 115 hasn't done phase 1 for AGA in humans. Conversation includes treatments Min, Fin, and RU.

The conversation discusses hair loss treatments, specifically mentioning Spiro, Min, Fin, and RU. It highlights that Spiro is generally for women and can affect men's hormonal balance.

Copper peptides, specifically GHK-Cu, are discussed as a potential addition to hair loss treatments, possibly working synergistically with Minoxidil to convert vellus hair into terminal hair. The effectiveness and credibility of copper peptides are questioned due to the lack of widespread discussion and potential conflict of interest from the product's creator.

A female user is considering using RU58841 with minoxidil 2.5% to reduce side effects like facial hair from minoxidil 5%, while also using copper peptides and a hair serum. Other users discuss alternative treatments like spironolactone, alfatradiol, and the side effects of finasteride.

The relative strength of Pyrilutamide compared to RU58841 in terms of androgen receptor binding affinity. It has been noted that Pyrilutamide is 4x stronger than RU58841, with a higher binding affinity than DHT itself.

Shiseido's S-DSC Hair Multiplication Treatment in Japan is available to foreigners but is expensive and not very effective. Despite past disappointments, there is hope for future treatments with more options in development beyond Minoxidil and Finasteride.

P5P supplementation helped reverse finasteride side effects, particularly by lowering prolactin levels and restoring sensitivity. The user experienced significant improvement within a day and full recovery in a few days.

A user bought questionable RU58841 powder from AliExpress and seeks a way to test its composition in Europe. Another user suggests using Janoshik for testing.

A user ordered RU58841 from a Chinese supplier, found it to be less than 99% pure, and plans to try a different seller next time. Concerns were raised about impurities, but the user believes they are likely inactive fillers rather than harmful substances.

The conversation is about the effectiveness of peptides for hair loss and the user considering using GHK-Cu, CJC-1295, and BPC-157 for treatment.

Saw palmetto, a 5-alpha reductase inhibitor, caused unexpected side effects like breast changes and altered semen consistency, which resolved after stopping its use. Concerns about similar side effects with finasteride or dutasteride were expressed, and another user reported low libido and depression from saw palmetto.

The efficacy of degrading the androgen receptor through dermal application in DP cells, a delivery system for topical drugs that involves dissolving microneedles, and rosemary oil as an alternative anti-androgen.

The user is seeking alternatives to propylene glycol and glycerin for mixing with RU58841 due to allergies and greasiness. Suggestions include reducing glycerin and considering stemoxydine as a solvent.

The conversation discusses using non-denatured ethanol for RU58841. Treatments mentioned include Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841.

Hair loss treatments Cosmerna, RU, and Pyri discussed. Cosmerna inhibits androgen receptors, but not 100%, so RU/Pyri can be used synergistically.

High cost of studying 3α-Hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase in hair loss led to suggestions of crowdfunding for research. Users discussed using Procyanidin B2/melatonin topical treatment and tracking funds with blockchain.

The conversation discusses the potential of PP405 as a hair loss treatment, with some users expressing skepticism and others hopeful about its development. There is also mention of other treatments like Minoxidil, Finasteride, and Pyrilutamide, with users debating the effectiveness and safety of self-experimentation versus waiting for clinical trial results.

Zinc pyrithione and piroctone olamine are effective for reducing hair shedding, possibly more so than ketoconazole. There is a concern about zinc pyrithione shampoo interfering with minoxidil, but it's unclear if this is proven.

A Spanish dermatologist suggests sulforaphane for androgenetic alopecia (AGA) due to its potential to remove DHT metabolites, though high dosages are needed. A topical formulation might be possible.

Fluridil may decrease the number of androgen receptors in hair follicles by up to 95%. This suggests a different action mechanism from other non-steroidal antiandrogens like RU58841, indicating they might be used together.