Hair loss treatments, specifically about the effectiveness of RU58841 compared to Pyrilutamide. Molecular weights and side effects were discussed in terms of efficacy and cost-effectiveness.
A 25 year old male who has been using finasteride and dutasteride for two years to treat his hair loss, with no success. Other treatments such as oral minoxidil, topical anti-androgens, RU58841, latanoprost, topical estrogen, CB 03 01, microneedling, keto 2% shampoo, vitamin D, Omega 3, B vitamins and probiotics were discussed.
A user questions if ingesting topical minoxidil could be an alternative to oral minoxidil for hair loss. Another user reports success with this method, noting they saw results and experienced no adverse effects.
Redensyl, which is a topical alternative to Minoxidil for hair loss. It may have advantages such as not making the hair greasy and lasting longer after discontinuing use than minoxidil. There are some positive reports from users, but also some negative ones, so it's unclear how effective this treatment will be in comparison to Minoxidil and other treatments like Finasteride or RU58841.
A user's experience with dealing with hair loss, and the advice that was shared by other users to cope with it. Suggested treatments included shaving their head, using medications such as finasteride, minoxidil, and dutasteride, as well as dermarolling.
The user has been using 1mg Finasteride daily for six months, experiencing reduced shedding and itchiness but some frontal thinning. They are considering adding Minoxidil and have started dermarolling to enhance results.
There are no tests to determine genetic follicle sensitivity for hair loss, and conclusions are based on hypothetical or post-balding observations. Finasteride is mentioned as an easy, consistent treatment option compared to natural treatments.
Finasteride may affect prostate sensation and size, with some users reporting easier urination. Concerns exist about prostate shrinkage even at lower doses.
Finasteride users discuss potential side effects, including Post Finasteride Syndrome (PFS), with varying opinions on its legitimacy and impact. Some users report side effects like changes in semen consistency and reduced pre-ejaculate, while others emphasize the rarity and reversibility of side effects.
The user is considering topical Saw Palmetto or Pumpkin Seed Oil due to sensitivity to finasteride and cost issues. They also use dermastamping for Minoxidil absorption and seek advice on timing to avoid systemic absorption.
The conversation discusses the safety study of PP405, emphasizing that early trials focus on safety rather than efficacy, and that any efficacy data from such a short study should be viewed skeptically. It also highlights that the information released is primarily for securing funding, and that meaningful efficacy results are expected in later phases.
A user is seeing good results with RU58841 for hair loss, noting reduced shedding and thicker hair. They plan to use pumpkin seed oil as a solvent to avoid water content, which they believe reduces the effectiveness of anti-androgens.
The user experienced sensitivity and side effects from finasteride and Saw Palmetto, leading to swollen and sensitive breasts, and decided to stop finasteride after two weeks. They are now trying Saw Palmetto, Biotin, and Ashwagandha, while others in the conversation discuss their own experiences with hair loss treatments like minoxidil and finasteride.
Saw palmetto, a 5-alpha reductase inhibitor, caused unexpected side effects like breast changes and altered semen consistency, which resolved after stopping its use. Concerns about similar side effects with finasteride or dutasteride were expressed, and another user reported low libido and depression from saw palmetto.
The conversation discusses the effectiveness of reducing DHT for hair loss treatment and explores alternative approaches like reducing androgen receptor sensitivity. Specific treatments mentioned include finasteride, dutasteride, pyrilutamide (KX-826), GT20029, and RU58841.
P5P supplementation helped reverse finasteride side effects, particularly by lowering prolactin levels and restoring sensitivity. The user experienced significant improvement within a day and full recovery in a few days.
PP405 shows initial promise for treating androgenetic alopecia, with safety confirmed in early trials, but skepticism remains due to limited data. Further trials are needed to determine its true efficacy and potential market impact.
PP405's phase 2a trial results were presented, focusing on safety and pharmacokinetics, with a future meeting planned to share the full dataset. The trial includes a randomized controlled portion and an open-label extension, with no indication of phase 2B completion.
Post Finasteride Syndrome (PFS) is debated, with some users reporting severe side effects from finasteride, while others believe these effects are rare or psychosomatic. Treatments discussed include finasteride, minoxidil, and RU58841.
People are discussing the anticipated release of PP405 phase 2a results, expected by the end of March, with some skepticism about its effectiveness. There is cautious optimism due to past experiences with similar treatments like Breezula, despite concerns about the lack of presentation at the AAD 2026 conference.
The conversation is about gathering serum DHT data from individuals taking dutasteride to investigate its efficacy, especially in cases with unexpectedly low DHT reduction. The aim is to explore potential genetic factors affecting drug metabolism.
The user experienced sexual side effects after starting finasteride and later switched to dutasteride, noticing hormonal changes. They are considering using P5P and possibly aromatase inhibitors to manage high prolactin and estradiol levels.
The relative strength of Pyrilutamide compared to RU58841 in terms of androgen receptor binding affinity. It has been noted that Pyrilutamide is 4x stronger than RU58841, with a higher binding affinity than DHT itself.
Scalp biopsies are crucial for diagnosing hair loss conditions like Diffuse Unpatterned Alopecia (DUPA) and retrograde hair loss, as treatments like finasteride and dutasteride may not be effective if other conditions are present. Combining PPAR-GAMMA agonists with retinoids could improve treatments for conditions like Lichen Planopilaris.
Pyrilutamide is a selective AR antagonist with a high binding affinity, making it effective in competing with DHT for androgen receptors. The 1% concentration is more effective than the 0.5%, but the latter may suffice for mild hair loss; the drug is considered a good option for those avoiding 5AR blockers due to side effects.
Pyrilutamide, a nonsteroidal antiandrogen drug under development for the potential treatment of androgenic alopecia. The conversation discusses its binding affinity to the androgen receptor and the timeline for possible availability after trials are completed in the United States and China.