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The conversation discusses whether not masturbating (semen retention) affects hair loss, with opinions varying but generally dismissing the idea. Some participants mention using hair loss treatments like Minoxidil, Finasteride, and RU58841, but the effectiveness and relation to prolactin levels in the scalp are debated.

Finasteride is used for hair loss, with mixed reports of no side effects and claims of long-term negative effects known as Post Finasteride Syndrome (PFS). The conversation debates the existence and causes of PFS, with differing opinions on whether it is psychological or real.

Scalp biopsies are crucial for diagnosing hair loss conditions like Diffuse Unpatterned Alopecia (DUPA) and retrograde hair loss, as treatments like finasteride and dutasteride may not be effective if other conditions are present. Combining PPAR-GAMMA agonists with retinoids could improve treatments for conditions like Lichen Planopilaris.

The phase 3 trial results for Pyrilutamide showed no significant difference from the control treatment in increasing hair count, leading to the company halting its development. Users discussed their disappointment and skepticism about hair loss treatments, with some mentioning other treatments like Minoxidil, Finasteride, and RU58841.

The user has been taking 1mg finasteride daily for a year with no improvement in hair loss and reports low cortisol levels, sleep issues, and anxiety changes. The conversation includes discussions on the potential effects of finasteride on cortisol and neurosteroids, with suggestions to consult a doctor and consider other factors.

Finasteride may have positive effects by keeping testosterone levels higher, potentially maintaining youthfulness and physical performance as one ages. It could also help with conditions related to aging like andropause and sarcopenia without increasing estradiol levels.

ABS-201 shows promise for male hair regrowth by blocking the prolactin receptor, with higher expected efficacy than current treatments. The discussion also covers dosing differences between macaques and humans for hmi115, highlighting a significant dosage disparity.

Supplements like saw palmetto or pumpkin seed oil may target the remaining 10% of DHT not affected by Dutasteride. Users discuss whether these supplements are beneficial when already using Dutasteride.

A user experienced severe side effects from finasteride, including mental health issues and physical symptoms, and sought advice on managing post-finasteride syndrome. Suggestions included checking vitamin levels, considering dopamine agonists, and avoiding further psychiatric medications.

RU58841, an anti-androgenic compound, showed early promise for treating alopecia but faced challenges after its patent in 1997. Despite advancing to Phase II trials, safety concerns and financial struggles led Aventis to abandon its development. Proskelia, which later merged into ProStrakan, couldn't prioritize the drug, leading to its eventual stagnation and failure to reach the market.

Pyrilutamide shows promising hair growth results, but skepticism exists due to potential biases and lack of blinding in the study. Concerns about side effects and legitimacy of the product persist, with comparisons to finasteride and discussions on post-finasteride syndrome.

A woman with AGA is using spironolactone, dutasteride, finasteride, oral minoxidil, bicalutamide, and anti-androgenic birth control but still experiences worsening hair loss. Steroid shots temporarily stop her hair shedding, leading her to question her biopsy results.

The user experienced sexual side effects after starting finasteride and later switched to dutasteride, noticing hormonal changes. They are considering using P5P and possibly aromatase inhibitors to manage high prolactin and estradiol levels.

Pumpkin seed oil is a weak natural DHT inhibitor and not effective for significant hair loss. Effective treatments include finasteride, minoxidil, and other medications.

Pyrilutamide is believed to be more effective than RU58841 and 1 mg finasteride in treating hair loss, with no systemic hormonal effects and the potential to block more than 31% of scalp DHT. It may also antagonize scalp testosterone due to its action as an androgen receptor antagonist.

PP405 shows initial promise for treating androgenetic alopecia, with safety confirmed in early trials, but skepticism remains due to limited data. Further trials are needed to determine its true efficacy and potential market impact.

Dutasteride reduces DHT more effectively in hair follicles than finasteride, but some individuals still experience hair loss despite treatment. Combining oral and topical finasteride may improve results, and some users experiment with topical dutasteride despite uncertainties about its absorption.

The conversation is about a user preparing to join the ABS-201 clinical trial for hair loss treatment, which involves a prolactin inhibitor. The user plans to update others on their progress if enrolled.

Men with early male pattern baldness (MPB) may have hormonal abnormalities similar to those in women with PCOS. Specific treatments mentioned include Minoxidil, Finasteride, and RU58841.

A 19-year-old concerned about long-term effects of 5AR inhibitors on physical appearance. They have used finasteride and plan to try dutasteride or RU58841; responses suggest improved skin, hair, and confidence.

A user initially had side effects from finasteride, attributed them to anxiety and the nocebo effect, and after resuming the drug, experienced positive effects and now warns against misinformation about Post Finasteride Syndrome.

User experienced hair thickening with pyri but also side effects like reduced sex drive. Stopping pyri and returning to CB restored sex drive, suggesting pyri may go systemic or be incorrectly formulated.

A 28 year old using a hair loss prevention protocol to restore thinning hair, which includes finasteride, dutasteride, minoxidil, stemoxydine, alopecin, nizoral shampoo and microneedling; the user is now adding pyrilutamide solution to the regimen with the hope of improving their results. RU58841 was also ordered but not yet used.

Pumpkin Seed Oil and Perilla Oil (with alpha-lipoic acid, linoleic acid, and oleic acid) are discussed as potential 5alpha-reductase inhibitors. The conversation focuses on their effectiveness for hair loss treatment.

A user reported full recovery from Post Finasteride Syndrome after 6 months of HCG treatment. They used 250IU of HCG three times a week.

The drugs RU-58841, Pyrilutamide (KX-826), Apalutamide, Enzalutamide, and Darolutamide, which are nonsteroidal antiandrogens (NSAA), potentially impacting male fertility. Pyrilutamide, similar to Enzalutamide, may have reversible effects on fertility.

The conversation discusses the absorption and effectiveness of PG-free versus PG versions of RU58841, with some users believing PG improves efficacy while others see no difference. Concerns about RU58841's potential side effects on the endocrine system are also mentioned, with one user considering switching to pyrilutamide.

FCE 28260 (PNU 156765), an under-explored 5α-reductase inhibitor, showcases promising results in research by Giudici et al., outperforming well-known treatments like Finasteride in reducing the conversion of testosterone to DHT. Its superior efficacy, demonstrated through lower IC50 values in both natural and human recombinant enzyme studies, suggests it could offer more effective management of DHT-related conditions. Additionally, its lower molecular weight hints at better potential for topical application, potentially offering advantages in treating conditions such as androgenic alopecia. Despite its potential, it has not advanced in development, possibly due to financial limitations, leaving its therapeutic prospects and side effect profile largely unexplored.

The conversation discusses the potential benefits of adding Vitamin B6 (P-5-P) to topical hair loss treatments like RU58841, finasteride, or minoxidil. The user suggests that Vitamin B6 might enhance these treatments by naturally lowering scalp prolactin.

Discouragement regarding Pyrilutamide, a drug in development for hair loss, and the potential side effects of Finasteride. People discussed anecdotal experiences with Pyrilutamide as well as suggestions to wait out Phase 3 trials before making any conclusions.