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The conversation discusses concerns about oral minoxidil potentially aging the face by affecting collagen, questioning its systemic effects. The user has successfully used topical minoxidil for years and is hesitant to switch to oral minoxidil.

The user experienced concerning side effects like throat irritation, shortness of breath, chest pain, and testicle pain after using RU58841 for hair loss, despite also using finasteride and minoxidil. Other users shared mixed experiences, with one advising to stop using RU58841 due to similar side effects, while another reported significant hair loss reduction without side effects.

RU58841 and pyrilutamide are being discussed as potential hair loss treatments, with some users reporting side effects. There is interest in these treatments as alternatives to 5ar inhibitors and oral minoxidil due to concerns about safety and side effects.

A user from China is participating in a clinical trial for Pyrilutamid, a potential hair loss treatment originally developed for prostate cancer. They've experienced no side effects except initial scalp itchiness, and will share results after the year-long trial.

RU58841 is being mixed with Minoxidil solution, but concerns arise about water causing instability. Mixing with water may lead to hydrolysis, potentially reducing effectiveness.

The user is considering adding RU58841 to liquid minoxidil without propylene glycol (PG) due to an allergy and is asking if this combination is effective and if PG is necessary. They have been using finasteride and minoxidil foam, plan to use RU58841 with liquid minoxidil in the evening, and continue finasteride.

A user experienced an allergic reaction, including swollen lymph nodes, to Minoxidil 5% with an aqueous base. Switching to a non-alcohol-based Minoxidil (Prolox 5%) resolved the allergies.

A 15-year-old experiencing severe diffuse thinning plans to use minoxidil, dermarolling, and possibly ketoconazole, with hopes to later incorporate finasteride. Concerns about starting finasteride too young and the need for a dermatologist consultation are discussed.

Pelage plans to release phase 2 results and start phase 3 trials for PP405 in 2050, but skepticism remains due to past delays and unfulfilled promises. Users express frustration over the lack of progress in hair loss treatments, mentioning Minoxidil, finasteride, RU58841, CB-03-01, and Fluridil.

The user is experiencing diffuse thinning and inflammation despite using 2.5mg dutasteride daily, ciclopirox, and ketoconazole shampoos. They are considering treatments like hydroxychloroquine and JAK inhibitors due to suspected scarring alopecia and have faced challenges in obtaining a scalp biopsy.

PP405 is criticized for overhyped claims and cherry-picked data, with doubts about its effectiveness compared to minoxidil and finasteride. Many users express skepticism, emphasizing the need for more comprehensive trial results.

The conversation discusses the absorption and effectiveness of PG-free versus PG versions of RU58841, with some users believing PG improves efficacy while others see no difference. Concerns about RU58841's potential side effects on the endocrine system are also mentioned, with one user considering switching to pyrilutamide.

Switching from liquid to foam minoxidil led to hair loss for OP, possibly due to a second shedding cycle. OP experienced allergic reactions to propylene glycol in the liquid form, causing dandruff and itchiness, which improved after switching to foam.

Fatty liver and related issues may influence hair loss conditions like Dupa/Aga. Treatments discussed include Minoxidil, finasteride, RU58841, myo-inositol, and L-glutamine.

Excess sebum rich in cholesterol and triglycerides can lead to hair loss through inflammation, with treatments like Ciclopirox shampoo, Benzoyl Peroxide shampoo, and Clindamycin gel recommended for managing conditions like seborrheic dermatitis and folliculitis. Pioglitazone is suggested for Lichen Planopilaris, while Omega-3s and reducing processed foods may improve sebum quality, though genetic factors play a significant role.

Saw palmetto, a 5-alpha reductase inhibitor, caused unexpected side effects like breast changes and altered semen consistency, which resolved after stopping its use. Concerns about similar side effects with finasteride or dutasteride were expressed, and another user reported low libido and depression from saw palmetto.

The user is experiencing hair regrowth with oral minoxidil and dutasteride but still has fragile hairs that easily pluck out from the front center. Despite improvements, the user is concerned about the persistent fragility and shedding of these hairs.

Oral minoxidil users should monitor heart health with periodic echocardiograms and cardiologist visits due to potential side effects. While some experience serious side effects, they are rare, and the benefits for hair growth often outweigh the risks.

Post Finasteride Syndrome (PFS) may result from epigenetic changes and gut microbiota alterations. Supplementing with Allopregnanolone might protect against these adverse effects.

New hair loss treatments PP405 and VDPHL01 are discussed with skepticism and hope, alongside existing treatments like minoxidil and finasteride. Users express frustration over limited progress since the 1980s but remain cautiously optimistic.

A 28 year old using a hair loss prevention protocol to restore thinning hair, which includes finasteride, dutasteride, minoxidil, stemoxydine, alopecin, nizoral shampoo and microneedling; the user is now adding pyrilutamide solution to the regimen with the hope of improving their results. RU58841 was also ordered but not yet used.

Topical Minoxidil may cause pericardial effusion. Caution is advised when using Minoxidil, even topically.

The user experienced severe scalp itching after using RU58841 and ketoconazole shampoo, despite trying moisturizing treatments. They suspect the issue is related to the propylene glycol in the vehicle and are seeking alternatives.

The user has been using RU58841 for 6 months without noticeable results and is considering dropping it while continuing oral minoxidil, daily dutasteride, and topical minoxidil. Another user suggests visiting a dermatologist to check for other conditions.

A user started using RU58841 for hair loss and experienced anxiety and physical discomfort. Other users suggested avoiding the treatment due to similar side effects and recommended alternative treatments like pyri.

PP405 is seen as promising but uncertain, with users advised to continue using existing treatments like minoxidil and finasteride. Concerns include its cost, availability, and interaction with hair transplants, while some hope it could complement current treatments.

Hair loss treatments, including PP405, minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841, with hopes for future solutions. Participants discuss the emotional impact of hair loss and consider alternatives like hair transplants or acceptance.

RU58841 from Amazon is unreliable, with users reporting no benefits and side effects like eye swelling and chest pain. Rudirect is recommended for purchasing in Europe.

A 22.5-year-old male is frustrated with doctors for not taking his diffuse thinning seriously. He has been using finasteride for 2.5 years, avoids topical minoxidil due to dandruff, and is hesitant about oral minoxidil due to weight and injury concerns.

The user is applying topical finasteride with stemoxydine for hair loss and has noticed hair thickening but no regrowth after two months. They also report high SHBG and prolactin levels and a lack of morning erections, even on low doses of medication.